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Wingnut Wings - 1/32 scale - AMC DH.9

Started by zak, November 14, 2019, 04:52:01 PM

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zak

Thanks Tony, I have not got that far yet, but some good advice.

I was trying to see what looked best.
The Gaspatch one are resin and quite delicate and so the rigging would not be a strengthening element.

I did like you, wonder about just threading the AA tube over the monofilament.
If anything is overscale it would look dreadful.
Even on the real thing the turnbuckles are just slightly thicker than the rigging wire.
Wingnuts do not seem to favour turnbuckles.
I may have to build a mock up to see how it goes.
The colour of turnbuckles is another issue!
Grumpy by name and nature

Haddock

The Gas-patch stuff could even be 3D printed, what do you think?
Haddock.

zak

Quote from: Haddock on November 19, 2019, 01:26:30 PM
The Gas-patch stuff could even be 3D printed, what do you think?
Haddock.
It could well be, they seem to print in resin as well now, the wonders of modern science or technology.

A bit more progress on the fuselage, various fuel pipes and pumps added as well as a Vickers Mk1 machine gu.
Grumpy by name and nature

Haddock

What a pity all that internal framing is hidden from view.
Haddock.

zak

I know it is there.
Wings have now been added, together with a rusted lagged exhaust and the carburettor intakes.
Grumpy by name and nature

Haddock

Looking good,                 when did you last sleep?
Haddock.

Bigkev

Quote from: Haddock on November 20, 2019, 03:32:16 PM
Looking good,                 when did you last sleep?
Haddock.

He doesn't.......

He's like a Duracell Bunny, just keeps going on, and on, and on.

Is there a different time equilibrium in Bempton, how many hours is there in an normal Bemptonian day??

Nice work, though.

Bigkev
I hope my next is always better

Roger

Hi Zak
Not sure if it says on the instructions for this kit, but on the WNW website it recommends pinning the control surfaces with brass rod. Otherwise the contact patch is to scale, and they are very weak.

I had the same dilemma on turnbuckles. In the end I went for homemade eyelets and a knot sealed with superglue, then touched up with acrylic paint to thicken the end slightly. When I see brass tube on the end of a rigging wire, I think it looks very pretty, and it definitely wins in National competitions, but I felt my approach looked more like the real thing, which was more important to me.

Your build is looking very nice, cracking job sir!
Roger

zak

Quote from: Roger on November 21, 2019, 10:09:00 AM
Hi Zak
Not sure if it says on the instructions for this kit, but on the WNW website it recommends pinning the control surfaces with brass rod. Otherwise the contact patch is to scale, and they are very weak.

I had the same dilemma on turnbuckles. In the end I went for homemade eyelets and a knot sealed with superglue, then touched up with acrylic paint to thicken the end slightly. When I see brass tube on the end of a rigging wire, I think it looks very pretty, and it definitely wins in National competitions, but I felt my approach looked more like the real thing, which was more important to me.

Your build is looking very nice, cracking job sir!
Roger

Same dilemma for me, I am not sure what to do, I am still undecided about turnbuckles.
The real things appear very delicate and it would be easy to overdo them.
I did look at the tips on the Wingnuts website and it suggested pinning, so I will do as you did.
Thanks for your input, always helpful to know what others have done.
I liked your model and it received much praise at Telford.
Grumpy by name and nature

Roger

No problem, and thanks. Just one other thing to remember (I'm sure you knew this but others might not)  - only one turnbuckle per wire (usually at the lower end where the riggers can reach them). I've seen so many with them at both ends - even national champions models - and while very pretty it isn't quite right.

Another thing worth remembering is that some of the wire fixings are actually internal ie behind the fabric covering on some aeroplanes I noticed that on some of the RAF museum airplanes. I can't honestly remember if the DH9a is like that of course, but I'm sure your reference will pick up on that. Further complicating things is that some of the RAF museum aircraft are replicas, and the WNW Bristol Fighter has features from the replica in New Zealand that weren't on the original, so it is easy to get confused. And finally, production was never as standardised as it has become today in the aviation industry. They were all handbuilt, and little improvements were being introduced all the time.

Enough rambling on,
Roger

zak

Quote from: Roger on November 21, 2019, 04:46:53 PM
No problem, and thanks. Just one other thing to remember (I'm sure you knew this but others might not)  - only one turnbuckle per wire (usually at the lower end where the riggers can reach them). I've seen so many with them at both ends - even national champions models - and while very pretty it isn't quite right.

Another thing worth remembering is that some of the wire fixings are actually internal ie behind the fabric covering on some aeroplanes I noticed that on some of the RAF museum airplanes. I can't honestly remember if the DH9a is like that of course, but I'm sure your reference will pick up on that. Further complicating things is that some of the RAF museum aircraft are replicas, and the WNW Bristol Fighter has features from the replica in New Zealand that weren't on the original, so it is easy to get confused. And finally, production was never as standardised as it has become today in the aviation industry. They were all handbuilt, and little improvements were being introduced all the time.

Enough rambling on,
Roger
Once again thanks, yes I was aware of the one turnbuckle per wire and it even seems some RFC/RAF biplanes did not use them at all.
Yes, the wires seem to go through the fabric into the wing in a number of places.
As you say the Wingnuts photos online are the rebuilt DH9 at Duxford, so who knows.

Ah well, what will be will be.

Lots of parts in the paint shop.
Grumpy by name and nature

Bigkev

ooooh Heck?

Air quality over Bempton, looking distinctly reduced at moment....!

Lots of stuff to paint.

Bigkev
I hope my next is always better

MSea

Another excellent model - LOVE the engine - will follow this with interest
MSea

zak

#28
Hi, I keep building and forgetting to take some photos, more soon.
Rigging with GasPatch turnbuckles.
Grumpy by name and nature

zak

More rigging and assembly.
Grumpy by name and nature