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Red Lancer

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Templar/Saracen
« on: December 21, 2020, 11:10:14 AM »
This is the next project.
54mm Templar and Saracen.
The Saracen is by Pegaso, white metal and the Templar is resin by Altidores studio.
(The change from 90mm Samurai to 54mm may well be a challenge for the eyes!!)

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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2020, 12:27:07 PM »
The clothing on the Saracen will be a challenge - to me it would be impossible but you will do it well I am sure. 
Looking forward to seeing this one progress.
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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2020, 02:19:43 PM »
This should be good.
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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2020, 11:02:52 AM »
This gets complicated but here goes:
Those that were at the last Nerd Day may recall that I was toying with
the saracen/templar models then, but decided that scales etc were dubious
so put them aside and went on to do the Samurai!
Picked them up recently and moved on, see Pic 1.
The original thoughts were correct, the Knight figure is pretty poor really.
Anyway, in the meantime, another Knight was discovered, wearing a Great Helm, using Lance etc.
Additionally, he is twisted to his right, which will be better in the final positioning,
So I got it and moved on, see pic2
The quality of detail on the latest one is far superior to the first!
However!!! I then decided that the horse looked small,( here we go again) and raked amongst the spares
box to find the original Knight See pic 3 to see comparison horses.
So I am now using the original horse with the replacement knight, see pic 4.
I said earlier that the quality of detail on the second model is superior to the first. This is especially true in the area
of the horses head, which is very noticeable. So, I am now attempting to sculpt in some more detailing, particularly
 around the eye area. you can see the early attempts at this in the pics, but it has moved on but no photos as yet.
This is the fist time that i have attempted sculpting something in such a visible area. I did seriously consider
chopping and using the other head!......anyway, we will see how it goes! 

Red Lancer

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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2020, 11:12:12 AM »
The clothing on the Saracen will be a challenge - to me it would be impossible but you will do it well I am sure. 
Looking forward to seeing this one progress.
Martin, during research etc. for this lot I came across several pictures of this Saracen model!
Unbelievable! I just can't imagine HOW they have done it! Repeat patterns are extremely difficult
(for me, at least!) to maintain consistency

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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2020, 12:38:22 PM »
Looking excellent already Howard.
Chris

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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2020, 01:38:33 PM »
Complex or what?
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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2020, 03:13:46 PM »
Complex or what?
Just wait till he gets paint on it as well - looking forward to seeing this Red
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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2020, 04:34:05 PM »
Looks good already can’t wait for more updates.

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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2020, 07:13:09 PM »
Complex or what?
The ones I was looking at were extremely complex i terms of both using
relatively small repeated patterns on such areas as capes, and also complex
linear, far more complicated than stripes.
I will see if I can manage to copy and post them on here: a) if they will let me;
b) if my computer skills can manage

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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2020, 06:59:52 PM »
Looks good already can’t wait for more updates.

Bob c
YEP!
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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2021, 06:34:42 PM »
The sculpting of horses heads is a damn site harder than painting them!
The pics show my efforts at improving the thing. The green coloured  stuff
is Milliput. I did around the eyes, made new ears and improved the muzzle (he says!).
It does look better in reality than on the pics. (I borrowed Dave's rose tints, Chris!)
I think, overall, it is better than it was, but not by much!
I read somewhere ages ago that you should use a wet brush to smooth over
Milliput. If you leave it too long it has no effect, too soon and it softens all the edges! Ask me how I know!
Anyway, we'll slosh some paint on!

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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2021, 07:38:23 PM »
Hi Red Lancer,
The horse looks happy, despite his cosmetic improvements.
A learning curve, but it looks you are very much ahead of it!
Cheers,
Bigkev
I hope my next is always better

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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2021, 09:09:50 PM »
Have you tried the 2 part epoxy green stuff?
It might work better.
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Re: Templar/Saracen
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2021, 01:51:20 PM »
Horse is looking good.
Chris