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Title: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: cph64 on April 16, 2020, 08:39:44 AM
This is the 1/72nd Airfix kit. I'm building it to add to the BoB display. Online reviews/builds say the fit in the cockpit is tight and it is, see photos. Also the fit of the upper wing (working on that now) and the engines, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it!!!
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: zak on April 16, 2020, 09:59:24 AM
Nice seat belt/harness.
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Post by: chriswil42 on April 16, 2020, 02:13:47 PM
Good detail.
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Post by: Haddock on April 16, 2020, 02:36:43 PM
This is the 1/72nd Airfix kit. I'm building it to add to the BoB display. Online reviews/builds say the fit in the cockpit is tight and it is, see photos. Also the fit of the upper wing (working on that now) and the engines, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it!!!
Just a note on "tight fits", it's easier to take stuff off than it is to put it back on.
Keep at it, it's looking good.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: cph64 on May 07, 2020, 08:36:35 AM
The paint masks have arrived so it's on with the build. I used the Montex masks for most of the glazing apart from the rear lower gun position, for which I used masking fluid. I also used it on the upper rear position as the inner masks didn't want to conform to the domed surface.
After masking the undercarriage was fitted to give something for it to stand on whilst being painted. The retraction struts are very thin so once cut off I trimmed them up by partially hanging the raised part off the end of the cutting mat to give support. The Humbrol RLM 65 was rubbed down to get a smoother surface, masked off and slightly thinned Xtracrylic RLM 71 was sprayed on the upper surfaces. It's ragged it places but I have photos of Do17s with tatty paintwork so they're a good excuse!!
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Post by: chriswil42 on May 07, 2020, 02:59:31 PM
Looking good Chris.
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Post by: Kiteman on May 07, 2020, 05:59:26 PM
Dont worry about tatty paintwork, in reality it was just sloshed on in the field. One could imagine that Haddock was there.
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: Bigkev on May 07, 2020, 08:41:13 PM
Dont worry about tatty paintwork, in reality it was just sloshed on in the field. One could imagine that Haddock was there.

Hi Kitey,
Not too sure about that....
Looking at how high the Do-17Z stood on its undercart, I doubt if he could have reached that high.
Bigkev
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Post by: councilman on May 09, 2020, 05:53:12 PM
Like that cockpit detail.
Andy.
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: cph64 on May 10, 2020, 02:24:59 PM
So it's back from the spray booth and had ALL the paint bleeds tidied up and sanded down. I thought I'd done a good job with the masking, but you know what thought did!!! The tail-wheel has been refitted using Plastic Weld as neither Contacta or super glue would hold it in place. It's a strange fit into the fairing with no obvious locating position.
Next up is fit the main wheels and mudguards then a coat of Klear followed by decalling, more clear then weathering. All the fiddly bits to be added after this.
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: Bigkev on May 11, 2020, 05:52:45 AM
Hi Chris,
That looks a real nice finish, I have one to build.
This might just have got me inspired.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: cph64 on May 14, 2020, 04:18:42 PM
I chose to build the bomber with the long range fuel tank and the smaller bomb load. The instructions for fitting the tank tell you to fit it one way but on reflection it is easier to fit it the other way around. Another snag which will be encountered is when you come to fit the beam machine guns. There is not a lot of wiggle room when you try to get them through the holes without snagging on the rear gunners seat. I opened the holes out a little bit more and turned the guns on their side as I 'gently' coaxed them into place. I fitted them after painting so as not to break them off whilst masking and painting.
One item missing from the kit is the towel rail aerial underneath, this is at odds with the markings for KG77. The instructions show both aircraft with the DF loop above the cockpit but when KG77 was in France at the time frame given the photos I've sourced showed that their aircraft didn't have the loop, just the rail. So I'll have to make one.
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: zak on May 14, 2020, 05:38:45 PM
Sterling work.
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Post by: Bigkev on May 14, 2020, 09:54:39 PM
Sterling work.

Hi Zak,
Do you not mean 'Dornier' Work?
Stirling was a British Bomber, Ho, ho, ho,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: zak on May 15, 2020, 07:29:37 AM
Sterling work.

Hi Zak,
Do you not mean 'Dornier' Work?
Stirling was a British Bomber, Ho, ho, ho,
Bigkev
You obviously did not check my spelling!
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: cph64 on May 20, 2020, 02:39:00 PM
Finished as 3Z+GS from 8/KG77 based at Laon/Couvron, Nthn France July 1940 which took part in various operations over Sthn England until December 1940 before withdrawing to re-equip with Ju88As.
I've had two attempts at making the 'towel rail' using different grades of wire so the plane is complete apart from that. I will revisit this once my skills improve in that area (could be a long time), so it's into the hanger as is. Stays were added for the access door from fine wire as these are also missing from the kit (Photo 1).
If I were to make this kit again then I'd put all the m/gs in place before painting even though it could create problems masking as when I took the cockpit glazing off to fit them I had to rework all the joints, seal and re-paint.
Another thing to watch out for is when fitting the SC50 racks into the bomb bay, check alignment with the openings in the top of the fuselage otherwise when you come to fit the quarter lights you have to jiggle them. Ask me how I know? I had one lucky escape. When re-fitting the cockpit canopy I got a Kristal Klear thumb print on the inside. Luckily I managed to get a damp Q Tip inside and wipe it off!!!
All in all a great kit, it just needs a little TLC in places and you even get the option of various positions for the variable incidence tail plane, control surfaces and flaps.
Paints used were by Xtracrylic, Humbrol and Tamiya with Flory washes and Citadel Nuln oil.
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: zak on May 20, 2020, 02:47:58 PM
Looks good.
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Post by: chriswil42 on May 20, 2020, 03:44:12 PM
It certainly does look good Chris.
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Post by: MSea on May 20, 2020, 06:16:02 PM
Another great model Chris - will Neil let you put it in his BofB display - hohohohoho
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: cph64 on May 21, 2020, 04:33:42 PM
Thanks guys. I did build it for the BoB display,but due to Covid it may be for the 85th or 90th Anniversaries, lol!!! and if he doesn't then it will be Bomben auf Biggles!!!!
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: Bigkev on May 21, 2020, 09:32:37 PM
Hi Chris,
A really nice model and a great detailed thread.
Well Done,
Bigkev
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Post by: councilman on May 25, 2020, 06:18:37 PM
Very nice.
Well done.
Andy.
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Post by: Red Lancer on May 28, 2020, 07:59:20 PM
Great Stuff Chris
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: cph64 on June 18, 2020, 04:20:03 PM
Postscript to the build. Whilst rooting through my etched brass spares looking for intake fans for the Me 262 I came across a set of 'towel rail' aerials from the Siebel set which I'd forgotten were in it. Bonus. So these are now in place looking a lot better than my scratch-build attempts!!
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: Bigkev on June 18, 2020, 06:00:07 PM
Hi Chris,
They look great!
Your Do-17Z is now complete, and you can be proud of your model, very nice.
Cheers,
Bigkev.

Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: chriswil42 on June 19, 2020, 03:25:44 PM
Good detail Chris.
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: MSea on June 19, 2020, 03:49:35 PM
Great Chris BUT you forgot to put the towels on the towel rail aerial !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dornier Do17Z
Post by: cph64 on June 21, 2020, 07:52:10 AM
They fell off over Kent!!!