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Title: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 04, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
Well back in the modelling world after a week in London at RHS Wisley gardens and a few other bits and bobs. Took "she who must be obeyed" to York to see some friends from "down south" (yes Zak  I do have friends) and found this box of samurai in Monksbar models in the reduced section. Could not see on the box how many figures so checked with the staff and they had to open the box - the number is on the inside flap so you had to open the box to find out - for a change it was not me being daft and not seeing things.
Now for the funny bit - the models are not just any old samurai but all faithfully depicted from a film I have seen recently - The 47 Ronin .
If you are sitting comfortably I will tell you the story - if not interested OR you are going to watch the film -- skip to the photos.  In 1701 Lord Asano was ordered to commit suicide because he had attacked Kira in the Shogans palace, you could not even draw your sword let alone attack somebody in that place. Kira had told Asano "porky pies" to make him look stupid in front of the Shogan,  orders are orders so Lord Asano committed suicide,  this made his samurai into lowly RONIN    ( fighting men with no Lord to serve). Kira thought the ronin would attack him for what he had done so surrounded himself with lots of guards and protection, but they waited and waited and waited and after a year attacked Kira and cut off his head, placing it on their late Lord Asanos grave, as a mark of respect. Not a happy ending - even thou the Shogan respected and admired the ronin for what they had done - he ordered them to also commit suicide, orders are orders, so they all did, but knew they had fulfilled their role as samurai and avenged their Lords death.

First 2 photos show the box art and the next 2 the first figure with eyes and a first coat of paint on the face. Next some shading on the face and block colour in the uniform. Will bring it next meeting so Howard can show me what I have done wrong with the face
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 04, 2018, 01:48:26 PM
Scale?
I think I may have some, somewhere?
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 04, 2018, 01:52:09 PM
 EUREKA! I have found them, 1/35 I believe, here are mine, sorry for hi- jacking your post.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 04, 2018, 03:35:41 PM
EUREKA! I have found them, 1/35 I believe, here are mine, sorry for hi- jacking your post.

No problem - I have 4 and you have 12 - the story of my life --hohoho
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 04, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
Main blocks of colour added next the patterns.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 04, 2018, 08:42:05 PM
Because its me - will I just place the samurai on a block of wood - not a chance, so a start made on some castle gates to fit into a wall - why do things easy when you can make more work and trouble for yourself ??????
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 04, 2018, 09:26:17 PM
Some more work done on the doors and a coat of stain now added, next job is to make some door furniture - handles/hinges/etc
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on July 04, 2018, 09:37:49 PM
Aaaah So, young Msea-san,

Glad to see you are trying something different, 1/35 figures indeed. Like the little story about 47 Ronin, seems our club is much the same, but who should be executed remains a divisive question.......?
Love the facial expression on the figure, it looks like he is full of wind, and about to explode, is that intentional, ha, ha.

Remember Msea-san, Ki-ban is the answer to good modelling, Ki-ban.............

Emperor Kevin-ko, the Mercilesser
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 04, 2018, 09:47:56 PM
"Oyasumi nasai"  "shisho"  -- Emperor Kevin-ko the mercilesser
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Haddock on July 05, 2018, 09:19:26 AM
Speechless, absolutely speechless.
Haddock.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 05, 2018, 10:57:50 AM
Do you remember Shogun on the telly, also a book.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 05, 2018, 02:14:35 PM
Do you remember Shogun on the telly, also a book.


Yes never read the book but enjoyed the TV
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 05, 2018, 02:15:22 PM
I'm not trying to hijack your post but I have just undercoated mine - its really your fault, you reminded me that I had some of these - Sorry!
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 05, 2018, 02:16:27 PM
Speechless, absolutely speechless.
Haddock.

Is that by my fluent Japanese ( from the internet ) or because of the bad modelling ??????????????
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 05, 2018, 02:19:46 PM
I'm not trying to hijack your post but I have just undercoated mine - its really your fault, you reminded me that I had some of these - Sorry!

Glad to have you onboard - bet yours are better than mine in the end !!! but hey-ho its only a hobby for FUN.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 05, 2018, 03:17:06 PM
Speechless, absolutely speechless.
Haddock.

Is that by my fluent Japanese ( from the internet ) or because of the bad modelling ??????????????
totemo良い趣味desuga
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 05, 2018, 07:34:51 PM
very much but ?????
 should I ask what the but is ????????????????????
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on July 05, 2018, 08:29:26 PM
Oh Blimey,
What have I started,

Kevin-ko The Merciless,

Now,

Kevin- oh The Very Worried!
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 05, 2018, 08:38:42 PM
Oh Blimey,
What have I started,

Kevin-ko The Merciless,

Now,

Kevin- oh The Very Worried!

How about a Japanese  Cartoon Kevin ????????
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on July 05, 2018, 09:18:24 PM
Hi, Msea-san,

I may commit Har-Kiri................

Be gentle with me.

Cheers,

Kevin-ho
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 06, 2018, 07:16:53 AM
Speechless, absolutely speechless.
Haddock.

Is that by my fluent Japanese ( from the internet ) or because of the bad modelling ??????????????
totemo良い趣味desuga
Try using the translator on Google!
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 06, 2018, 09:02:05 AM
OK if you put the words in seperately like I did, you get TOTEMO =VERY MUCH and DESUGA = BUT.
Now I have put in both words together you get TOTEMO DESUGA = IS IT SO 
 Its like when I was at school they said don't try and teach him a foreign language, why make him illiterate in 2 languages just try and make him illiterate in English.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 06, 2018, 05:33:30 PM
Well here is mine.
Not sure I like the look of his eyes though?
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 07, 2018, 10:48:31 AM
Looking good -- I think the eyes look just like yours -- hohoho
Will get the Japanese lettering on the collar and will then send a photo.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 11, 2018, 02:42:10 PM
Most of the work done - swords and spear to do next
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Haddock on July 11, 2018, 03:10:58 PM
Hidden talents.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 11, 2018, 04:28:04 PM
Thank you Haddock -- but ships are still my number one.
Blocking in colour on the spearsman and arms added to the bowman
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 13, 2018, 07:21:03 AM
Mine were on display at the club night but you missed them - football is obviously too important.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 13, 2018, 09:52:23 AM
Mine were on display at the club night but you missed them - football is obviously too important.

Correct - but how about some photos of models on the table ?????
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 13, 2018, 11:33:29 AM
Forgot to take my camera, I am awaiting Joe to send me the photos.
Here are the Ronin, just for you.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 13, 2018, 09:52:53 PM
Nice very very nice
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 14, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Some more work done on the figures
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on July 14, 2018, 08:04:22 PM
Aaaah,

Now both Zak and Msea are now figure modellers, and very good they are too...………
Is there no end to their modelling skills...………..?
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 15, 2018, 07:23:52 AM
Your right, there is no end - it will only get worse!
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 15, 2018, 09:37:18 AM
Its the downward spiral for me -- hohoho
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 17, 2018, 08:43:39 AM
A start made on the castle walls and gate.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 17, 2018, 10:43:39 AM
Nice scenery.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 18, 2018, 12:44:48 PM
Thanks Zak  - some more work done on the front of the castle
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 18, 2018, 01:49:14 PM
more done on the front of the castle.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on July 18, 2018, 04:03:16 PM
Hi MSea,
Looks nice but,

Didn't they have a B&Q nearby who could of sold them a spirit level and a set square?

I suppose it's 'off wiv me head' time.............

Like it a lot really!
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 18, 2018, 06:32:36 PM
Crenulations to you.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on July 18, 2018, 07:23:59 PM
I never did like to put my head over the parapet...……
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 18, 2018, 09:01:53 PM
Hi MSea,
Looks nice but,

Didn't they have a B&Q nearby who could of sold them a spirit level and a set square?

I suppose it's 'off wiv me head' time.............

Like it a lot really!
Bigkev


Look at the photo I found on the internet to help with the model -- must NOT have had a B&Q.
Like my ship models you know I like to go from photos, you tend to not repeat other peoples mistakes ( I can make enough of my own as you all know ) so YES its off with your head -- hohoho
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 19, 2018, 07:46:20 AM
But if Kevin looks closely he will see that you did have a set square handy - I'm not saying that you used it mind!
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 19, 2018, 08:18:58 AM
Wrong again Zak -- remember I was an engineer -- so that is a hammer with a wooden end --- hohoho
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on July 19, 2018, 02:14:48 PM
Well I now know what to do with mine.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 19, 2018, 07:18:09 PM
Quick tidy up at the back  --- a section of card stuck over the uneven back and a coat of black poster paint.
Now on to make some flags for the front of the castle - one will say "Brid and Wolds" and the other on the opposite side will say "Model Club" -- that is if my Japanese from the internet is correct.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on July 20, 2018, 04:33:43 PM
Hi Msea,
Lets hope that nobody from Japan reads this post.
It might mean I have to moderate you Msea, if you make a mistake with the flag wording...…
Careful now Martin-San
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on July 20, 2018, 05:07:47 PM
I will be on best behaviour - honest - hohoho
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on July 22, 2018, 07:54:21 PM
Oooooh Gosh,

That mean's I'll have some work to do..............

I'll have my whip ready to punish you if the need arise's, ...........you (maybe) naughty boy!

Just love the different modelling genre...............

Despite the dangers...........

Cheers
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 09, 2018, 03:42:27 PM
At last some work done on the models.
If the internet is correct the top one should say "model club" and the bottom one say "Brid and Wolds"
If not I will be in trouble with Kevin - big trouble.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 09, 2018, 04:00:59 PM
You just get back doing some work and Zak the slave driver says more speed more speed get them finished
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Bigkev on August 09, 2018, 05:40:30 PM
Hi Msea,
Looks like the 'Slave Driver Gene' can be transmitted.
Me, last night, now Zak.
Hope its not contagious, would want your nearest and dearest to get it, would you?
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 10, 2018, 01:44:04 PM
A couple of flag poles made and 2 smaller flags with the names Joyce and Martin in Japanese - maybe - if the internet is correct !!!!
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 10, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
A start made on the roof tiles from shim brass.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: Haddock on August 10, 2018, 03:19:40 PM
Glutton for punishment!!
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 10, 2018, 04:25:32 PM
Glutton for punishment!!

After a couple of rows I AGREE WITH YOU. 
But when you have started you have to finish - now off to have some tea then try to get the rest of the tiles on.  Then a coat of paint and some top ridge tiles between the rows - that should be another couple of days work.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 10, 2018, 06:06:50 PM
Last roof tiles fitted -- let them dry and press down some of the edges -- and than some paint
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 11, 2018, 07:28:15 PM
Flags in position and second shot shows first figure attached.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on August 12, 2018, 08:49:38 AM
Very nice, I would probably have used paper for the tiles. If you wrap it round the right size tube, dampen it and let it dry it works a treat, or silver foil is ok too.
I guess yours is more resilient.
I like your approach.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 12, 2018, 09:23:28 AM
Will try the wet paper next time. I was going to use half round plastic but croppers had NONE - so cut and bent shim brass, not as tidy as I expected ( but that was due to the rubbish modeler that made it not the materials ) it to be.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on August 12, 2018, 11:04:13 AM
You can also buy sheets of plastic card tiles, but they may be the wrong scale.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 13, 2018, 01:57:50 PM
Second figure added to base - now to try and get the swordmans hand and sword to fit the body, without it looking like he is at an unnatural angle.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 15, 2018, 08:19:28 PM
Third figure added
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 15, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
Last figure now in place -- some more touching up to do and work on the frame to hold the base
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on August 15, 2018, 08:59:18 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 15, 2018, 09:08:32 PM
Thank you Zak
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 16, 2018, 03:51:13 PM
Frame made and painted black -- model fitted into this.
Now what shall I go to next  -- I think a ship --- or I will be in trouble with Haddock
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: MSea on August 30, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
Just watched the film again and got me thinking - have you finished the second box of 8 figures YET Zak ??????????????
Title: Re: The 47 Ronin
Post by: zak on August 31, 2018, 07:45:25 AM
Just watched the film again and got me thinking - have you finished the second box of 8 figures YET Zak ??????????????
No, I have not started them.
Would you like them?