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Title: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on January 29, 2017, 07:56:40 PM
Hi all, this is the next build, a bit of filling and sanding needed on this one . It's a nice size kit 21" from nose to tail.
Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Bigkev on January 29, 2017, 08:48:59 PM
Hi Bridlufc,

I've done this one and yes it's BIG.
It's looking good so far, and I've no doubt it will look great when finished.
I did mine in natural metal finish, what scheme are you going for?
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on January 29, 2017, 08:56:08 PM
Thanks Bigkev, I'm going with the Libyan version of olive green and beige as per the box art. I hope I have included enough nose weight I have a feeling this could be a tail sitter.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Bigkev on January 29, 2017, 09:07:12 PM
Hi Bridlufc,

Yes, this is a model with lots of tail sitting attitude!!

I filled all the nose area with plasticine and .22 air rifle pellets. Mine sits okay thankfully.........
Look forward to seeing it 'camouflaged', it certainly will be eye catching.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Pen-Pusher on January 30, 2017, 10:01:22 AM
I have the new Modelsvit 1/72 kit of the Blinder... a vast improvement on the old ERTL/ESCI/ITALERI version which had so many inaccuracies. Looking forward to seeing this build though!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: kiwichappers on January 30, 2017, 10:54:23 AM
Now then Bridlufc,

There are some very tasty schemes for North African and Middle Eastern air forces and I look forward to seeing this one.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on January 30, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
I like something that's a bit different, although I admire the builds of WW11 aircraft models, spitfires hurricanes and 109s, they don't inspire me all that much.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: MSea on January 30, 2017, 01:42:50 PM
I like something that's a bit different, although I admire the builds of WW11 aircraft models, spitfires hurricanes and 109s, they don't inspire me all that much.

Dont let "Spitfire Bill" hear you or you will be in BIG trouble - but as long as he is not listening, I AGREE WITH YOU.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on February 02, 2017, 06:39:25 PM
I would love the Modelsvit Blinder but I have pushed the boat out a bit buying models just lately so I need to rein myself in a bit, fortunately my other half just lets me get on with it.  While we are on the subject of Modelsvit, I have just purchased both versions of the Mig 21-144 Analog, the 1 and 2, probably to show them off with the Blinder at some point. I also have the Esci Tu 22/Tu26 Backfire C for comparison as they were both based on the same aircraft I do believe.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Bigkev on February 02, 2017, 07:45:28 PM
Hi Bridlufc,
They would together form a great display, and show Soviet aviation of that period well.
Hope this comes to be sometime.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on February 02, 2017, 08:53:37 PM
Thanks Bigkev, I would like the blackjack as well but its a bit pricey in 1/72, all I could afford was the 1/144 scale one, oh well I can dream

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on February 12, 2017, 05:45:30 PM
Hi all, a little bit more done on the Tu22 with a little pre-shading and the underneath of the nose-cone sprayed white, ready for the first colour coat.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on February 12, 2017, 05:47:43 PM
Top side
Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on February 14, 2017, 08:47:57 PM
Two coats of Akan 73008 blue on the underneath, two coats of Vallejo 71.025 dark yellow on the engines
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on February 23, 2017, 09:46:30 PM
I used  Alclad gloss black base for preshading but maybe I should have given it  a light sanding down before I sprayed the lighter camo coat. Vallejo model air didn't take too well to the black gloss base. Oh well, you live and learn.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Wizzel on February 24, 2017, 09:44:01 AM
These cold war era things are something I can relate to having spent many hours learning whether to shoot or wave at them.  This is a smashing looking kit, looking forward to seeing it on the table.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Bigkev on February 24, 2017, 08:57:08 PM
I echo that sentiment Wizzel.

I've made this kit in a Natural Metal finish, it will be nice to see a fully camouflaged version.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on February 24, 2017, 09:35:54 PM
Kits like these are becoming very rare and the prices charged for them reflect this. I have had this in the stash for a while and it was reasonably priced but it makes me think does it warrant the cost nowadays just to add a kit to the stash?  I have built up my collection with the mindset that as I became more confident with model building I could at least do the model justice.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on February 27, 2017, 02:34:53 PM
...and justice yu have done my friend, it`s a blinder is that! ;D
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on February 27, 2017, 07:03:09 PM
Two coats of the lighter camouflage colour but it will need one more coat before it's is ready for the wiggly worms to mask for the darker camouflage colour which will be Vallejo model air 022 camouflage green

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 01, 2017, 08:49:39 PM
Worms on ready for masking, the engines were dry fitted at this stage to ensure the masking lines matched up on both sides of the tailfin and then removed for easier masking and spraying.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Bigkev on March 02, 2017, 06:59:14 PM
Nice, very nice Bridlufc.
Look forward to next instalment.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Roger on March 02, 2017, 07:01:22 PM
I'm liking this, good to see one of these in camouflage.
Roger
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 02, 2017, 10:10:06 PM
It looks green in the photo but I can assure you it is vallejo dark yellow!!!

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 04, 2017, 09:12:35 PM
This masking lark is tedious I just hope it works!!!  A modellers nightmare is paint bleed, hopefully the white tack will contain the paint in the areas where I want it.👍

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on March 05, 2017, 02:40:09 PM
Is it worth the effort??? There is surely an alternative or am I just innexperienced in this air brushing malarky?
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Roger on March 05, 2017, 04:51:07 PM
I have tried freehand, and my airbrush will spray very fine lines indeed, but I would say it is worth the effort personally. I have seen very few free hand camouflage demarcations that are tight enough.  Scaled up the overspray area would be a foot or two, and the models just look toy like, even in 1/48th scale. I am happy to freehand airbrush for touching up, mottling, shading and the like.
I know what you mean though - two hours masking for 30 minutes spraying!

R
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Haddock on March 05, 2017, 05:18:28 PM
Have to agree with Roger, although this is a pretty big aircraft so there's more masking than usual. It should look splendid when done, so worth the effort.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on March 06, 2017, 01:21:50 PM
I can`t wait to see the results...thanks for your comments.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 06, 2017, 06:06:51 PM
Thanks for the comments and encouragement chaps it is much appreciated.  The masking will be removed later this evening so all will be revealed.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Roger on March 06, 2017, 06:22:32 PM
Looking forward to the big reveal - I think it is one of the best bits of modelling!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 06, 2017, 09:10:58 PM
The darker camouflage colour as been added.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 06, 2017, 09:16:30 PM
Now for the removal of masking, I am quite pleased with the result so far, just a bit of paint bleed on the engines and no doubt I will have a bit more touching up to do. I am impressed with the white tack as a masking aid.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 06, 2017, 10:26:00 PM
As it is an oob build I have used the paint guide from the build instructions as a template mainly because it is my first try with white tack worms and masking. Gauging the thickness of the worms will probably make a difference to the 'hardness or softness' of the colour demarcation line, but that will come with practice and experience. Overall I think the technique I have used is quite easy to master, although it can be thought provoking and tedious, but there again some things in model making are!!!

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: MSea on March 06, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
Very nice looking forward to seeing it at the meeting.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 11, 2017, 08:29:48 PM
All the masking removed and as expected there is some paint bleed which has left a slight ridge as well, so out with the 3200 grit micro finishing cloth so I won't take too much paint off when sanding only to remove the ridge. Now do I re-mask where I need to or try and airbrush freehand?  Oh how I envy you hairy stick connoisseurs!!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 11, 2017, 08:56:03 PM
Whilst I was removing the masking, unbeknown to me,  one of the tail stabilisers the two halves didn't join very well with the adhesive, so I used some of the thick tube glue and a clamp. I forgot how unforgiving and brutal tube glue can be as I removed the clamp it left an impression of the clamp behind!!!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Pen-Pusher on March 11, 2017, 10:36:36 PM
If you've ever been up close and personal with these aircraft you'll know they are host to many 'buckled and dented panels.... you're 'clamp indentation' is nothing!  Anyway, the whole thing is looking good! Hat's off!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 15, 2017, 09:28:04 PM
I seem to be bogged down with this project for one reason or another, airbrush issues being the main one.  Basically I changed the needle size on one of my airbrushes to a smaller one, with the intention of being able to do finer lines and better detail work, and hopefully freehand spraying without the need to mask, but alas the airbrush just didn't take to the change. I purchased some cheap needles and nozzles in keeping with the club mantra 'they were cheap', I only had to look at the needles and the tips bent!!  I have a four gang adaptor on my airline which allows me to run up to four airbrushes at a time. This adaptor also allows me to regulate the airflow to each individual airbrush when I need to and this has caused me problems because I didn't realise I didn't have enough air pressure coming through from the compressor. Being a stubborn old cuss I blamed everything barring myself, but through the process of trial and error, I think I am back on track.
So, to please the 'hairy stick aficionados'  I will be touching this one up with a brush, otherwise I will be at it forever if I relied on the 'trusty airbrush'.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Wizzel on March 15, 2017, 09:42:39 PM
I'm sure you will do the kit justice nonetheless and I look forward to seeing it at a meeting soon.  Remember, folk like you were producing award winning models long before air brushes became what they are today but I feel your pain.

Having just starting with airbrushing, I have 2 'no name' airbrushes one with a .3mm nozzle and one with a .2mm nozzle.  I have a similar 'no name' compressor and one hose so if I change air brushes I need to whip the hose off one and stick it on the other.  The whole lot was a reasonable price - good value as opposed to cheap (and there IS a difference).  In the short time I have been spraying, I have decided I DO want to become more proficient and so am going to invest in a decent rig with sufficient features.

"Club Mantra" aside, when dealing with stuff such as this, it's always worth asking yourself "can I afford to buy cheap tools"!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 15, 2017, 10:38:26 PM
Obviously not, Wizzel, thanks for the comment, a bit like gambling, you pay your money you take your chance. I have paid a pretty penny for a couple of my airbrushes but they don't seem to live up to the cheaper ones I possess, for some strange reason, all down to marketing I suppose.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on March 17, 2017, 05:10:23 PM
Expensive doesn`t neccessarily mean good....be careful Wizzel.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Wizzel on March 18, 2017, 10:57:51 AM
Expensive doesn`t neccessarily mean good....be careful Wizzel.

My comment was not a prompt to purchase expensive gear over cheap but more to try and avoid cheap against good value, though I concede it's sometimes it's hard to tell the difference until you've bought the stuff, used it and found it unsuitable.  With that in mind, it would be good to know which cheap needles to avoid so the rest of don't fall into the trap.  What say you bridlufc?
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 18, 2017, 11:34:51 AM
Avoid buying anything regarding airbrush needles from the far east. They are cheap in bulk but nasty in nature, poorly packaged and the tips will probably be bent by the time they arrive which makes them totally unusable. Its a shame suppliers over here take advantage and charge inflated prices for these things mainly because of the brand names.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on March 18, 2017, 01:46:52 PM
Camouflage finished now for the fiddly detail bits

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Wizzel on March 18, 2017, 05:11:33 PM
THAT is a very clean looking build and finish.  I do like how it's coming together!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on March 18, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
Looking very smart indeed!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on April 09, 2017, 08:38:00 PM
After having a bit of an hiatus I am  back to the work bench,  but to be honest I've lost me modelling mojo a little bit,  I think it's down to hitting problems with my builds, but it will be back no doubt.  Camouflage colours finished, engines fitted, just a bit of touching up underneath due to paint bleed and then it's on to the gloss varnish coat ready for the transfers and a bit of weathering.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on April 09, 2017, 09:42:09 PM
It doesn't look as good in real life as it does on camera!!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Pen-Pusher on April 09, 2017, 10:11:05 PM
My wife says the same to me.... but actually, your Tu-22 will probably be a 'blinder' to everyone else as we're never happy with our builds.... not completely. I'm looking forward to seeing it as i have a Tu-26 trembling in its box as I write!!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on April 09, 2017, 10:40:59 PM
My wife says the same to me.... but actually, your Tu-22 will probably be a 'blinder' to everyone else as we're never happy with our builds.... not completely. I'm looking forward to seeing it as i have a Tu-26 trembling in its box as I write!!
I have so many kits that are trembling in their boxes I just don't know where to begin, I think to myself I don't need anymore and then along comes another!!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on April 09, 2017, 10:56:30 PM
I think I have gone to far around with the white on underneath the nose.
Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Pen-Pusher on April 10, 2017, 08:25:04 AM
The 'white' paint covering the dielectric panel below the nose often appears to extend beyond the actual panel itself. We discussed this plane during a 'spue-evening' recently and 'Flint-Pete' (who is all knowledgeable in these things) provided several instances where different squadrons using the 'B' looked to have different 'sized' panels according to their paint schemes. Also, like all aircraft, schemes vary in their service life so I guess what we're doing is making a representation of one aircraft as it was on one day of it's service life?
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Haddock on April 10, 2017, 04:13:19 PM
My wife says the same to me.... but actually, your Tu-22 will probably be a 'blinder' to everyone else as we're never happy with our builds.... not completely. I'm looking forward to seeing it as i have a Tu-26 trembling in its box as I write!!
I have so many kits that are trembling in their boxes I just don't know where to begin, I think to myself I don't need anymore and then along comes another!!
Funny how they just seem to fall into your bag when you're not looking, then make an appearance when you get home!!
Haddock.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on April 10, 2017, 04:57:03 PM
Someone who we know but shall remain nameless has resorted to 'swapsies' with me to get new kits past his mrs because she won't allow him to buy anymore!!!

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on April 11, 2017, 08:09:07 PM
Two coats of Humbrol clear varnish applied by airbrush, I must have dropped lucky with this bottle there's no white tint evident while it's drying. This stuff is slow drying so I will let it dry for a day or two before I start to apply the transfers and enhancing the panel lines.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on April 12, 2017, 09:37:18 AM
Looking very smart indeed :)
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on April 30, 2017, 08:54:54 PM
Panel lines picked out with Vallejo game colour black wash, the excess will be removed with isopropanol alcohol. The jury is out on this technique, some panel lines will show others won't, I'm not sure whether I should deepen the panel lines in the build  process because I think the amount of layers of paint and varnish lessen the depth of the panel lines somewhat.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on May 01, 2017, 09:49:29 AM
Interesting technique, I will be looking closely at the result.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on May 01, 2017, 11:28:00 PM
Kiteman, if you are going to try this technique read up on it first if you can, its not as easy as you would think. Its the gloss and acrylic combination that can be rather confusing.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on May 02, 2017, 03:49:50 PM
OK thanks.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on May 05, 2017, 07:35:34 PM
Panel lines done but isopropanol doesn't take any prisoners, it has lifted some of the varnish and underlying paint with it. I wonder if I can get away with saying it's part of the weathering process?  I should imagine an aircraft based in a semi desert climate will be subject to a beating from the sun and sand!!

The second picture is a closer view of the wing with the shaded panel lines for the interest of kiteman

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on May 05, 2017, 08:13:20 PM
Oops got the photos wrong way round!

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on May 07, 2017, 07:06:03 PM
Thank you very much....very effective, I will be trying that missen!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on May 13, 2017, 06:53:21 PM
Finally finished this one yay!  It will hopefully be on show at the next club meeting I can attend. It would be awesome to see the real thing.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on May 13, 2017, 06:54:53 PM
Another pic I can't believe how well the canopy glazing has turned out!! I never have any luck getting perfect glazing

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Bigkev on May 14, 2017, 07:11:30 AM
Hi Bridlufc,
That is a very nice model. I made mine in NMF finish, but yours looks brilliant in camouflage.
Well done, look forward to seeing it up close.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on May 14, 2017, 07:08:36 PM
Thanks Bigkev, I think it looks better in the photos than in real life.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Wizzel on May 14, 2017, 07:09:32 PM
That's a VERY NICE looking model.  It looks all ready to pounce.
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Roger on May 14, 2017, 09:10:39 PM
Great looking model!
Roger
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: Kiteman on May 15, 2017, 07:39:15 PM
What more can I say, superb!
Title: Re: Revell Tu22 B Blinder
Post by: bridlufc on May 15, 2017, 08:33:42 PM
Thanks chaps the comments are much appreciated
Bridlufc