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Title: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 21, 2017, 11:58:46 AM
Back from holiday and took some bits and bobs from the Alanger model to do.
Its is a very old kit and is not up to the modern Russian ships such as the Zvezda Sevastopol.
Working on the masts and the bridge deck. The photo show that the bridge deck sides are about 1.5mm wide which would be about 600mm in real life NOT the 20mm it should be. So removed and then replaced with brass shim.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 21, 2017, 12:40:19 PM
Ejector pin marks filled on the main decks.
The 4 boat davits are very easy to pick up on all photos of the ship, So the model ones are just a simple bit of plastic with NO lightening holes so new ones are being fabricated.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 21, 2017, 08:44:31 PM
The bridge is just a lump of plastic with no portholes,doors or markings.
Replaced by making a brass wall with the slot cut for the portholes and brass strip added to make the correct size. Doors cut as well with porthole in them, some bits and bobs added to the inside.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: zak on January 22, 2017, 07:17:06 AM
Adventurous stuff, well done on all the scratch building.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 22, 2017, 07:29:08 PM
Adventurous stuff, well done on all the scratch building.

Thank you Zak - but it gets worse - it will be 2 models the ship at the front in 1/350 scale and the massacre on the Richelieu Steps behind it in 1/72 scale.  They will be done on 2 different bases and put into one surround if they look OK - if not will be displayed as 2 seperate models -- we shall see how it goes !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Haddock on January 23, 2017, 08:24:39 AM
Thought there'd be a catch to it somewhere.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on January 24, 2017, 05:56:11 PM
You don`t do things by halves do you.....I am looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 26, 2017, 01:39:24 PM
Hull fastened together and then cut down to waterline. The last photo is a trial with the 3 decks added.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Haddock on January 26, 2017, 04:19:35 PM
Always a bit daunting when you hack great lumps off a kit!!
Haddock.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 26, 2017, 04:40:10 PM
Always a bit daunting when you hack great lumps off a kit!!
Haddock.

But good fun !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 28, 2017, 02:17:45 PM
Ford and aft deck fitted and the main deck then added. As you can see it had to be clamped hard as the sides splayed out quiet a lot. On top of that, the deck was bent and bowed and had to be forced down.
After it was all in place, you can see from the last photo, the aft deck and bulkhead did not meet - so the solid rail will have to be removed and the deck section enlarged to fit the bottom section and then new rails made.
The FUN of modelling with old kits !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 28, 2017, 04:07:38 PM
A bodge job on the aft deck - hope it looks OK after final clean up and a coat of paint.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on January 31, 2017, 10:59:17 AM
Start made on changing the 2 sets of figures from 1945 Soviet Militia and 1870-71Prussian Infantry, into Russian Peasants and Russian Guards Soldiers from 1905.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on January 31, 2017, 03:51:49 PM
This is what I call modelling! Don`t we just love that green stuff!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 01, 2017, 09:26:18 AM
This is what I call modelling! Don`t we just love that green stuff!

Thanks Kiteman - its just having fun for me.
The three funnels now made from 3 sections of brass tube.
The massacre on the steps will need LOTS of dead so a start on changing the Prussians into Russians.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 01, 2017, 09:29:54 AM
The brain is  MUSH - I forgot to add the photos.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: zak on February 01, 2017, 09:48:02 AM
The brain is  MUSH - I forgot to add the photos.
Well, well, there is a surprise, I never knew you had one!
Busy as ever I see.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 01, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
The brain is  MUSH - I forgot to add the photos.
Well, well, there is a surprise, I never knew you had one!
Busy as ever I see.

Yes but don't let "she who must be obeyed" find out, she has a jobs list as long as your arm for me to do.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Bigkev on February 01, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
What only as long as your arm??

You must have been very good somewhere in the past.

Nice work though. I must admit I was a bit worried when I saw some of the figures posed to shoot through the one in fronts head!
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 01, 2017, 05:13:55 PM

I must admit I was a bit worried when I saw some of the figures posed to shoot through the one in fronts head!
Cheers,
Bigkev

That was just a "before and after" shot showing all the bits and bobs that I have carved off the 1870 Prussian Infantry to turn him into a 1905 Russian.

Good to have you back on line again.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 04, 2017, 02:51:28 PM
A starte made on the Richelieu Stpes.
Strips of card for the steps and then a try making the side blocks with ex-poly but even if coated with plaster it would be rough. So 2 sides made from MDF, steps need a clean up on the sides and some filler on the front of the step.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: bridlufc on February 04, 2017, 02:54:40 PM
It looks like you've been in an explosion in a paint factory with that shirt!!!!

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 05, 2017, 11:38:28 AM
It looks like you've been in an explosion in a paint factory with that shirt!!!!

Bridlufc


Don't know what you mean - its what I call style - I think thats the word I am looking for ?????????
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: zak on February 05, 2017, 12:42:43 PM
It looks like you've been in an explosion in a paint factory with that shirt!!!!

Bridlufc


Don't know what you mean - its what I call style - I think thats the word I am looking for ?????????
Your choice of words, no one else's!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 10, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
Well glued the 2 sides to the cardboard steps last night but found even with very little pressure on the clamps it was bending the cardboard, So decided to turn whole thing onto its side and just put a weight onto the top. Everything OK so left it for a good nights sleep (thats me not the steps).

Today I find that during the night one of the sides has moved down and is lower than the other side @;**7 and other nautical language.
It also transpires that I have done such a good job with the glue it will not budge.

Can I live with it at different heights NO. So its chop it up and try again OR add some acrylic to each of the low sides to bring them into equal sizes, we shall see how it goes !!!!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on February 16, 2017, 05:14:20 PM
Either it is right or it is wrong, it`s as simple as that ey! I respect your tenacity!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 19, 2017, 04:55:06 PM
Either it is right or it is wrong, it`s as simple as that ey! I respect your tenacity!

You are correct as always Kiteman -- so the low side has now had some acrylic added to bring both sides level.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on February 26, 2017, 06:22:31 PM
Some work done on the figures to go on the steps.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on February 27, 2017, 02:22:48 PM
Nice....very nice!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on March 01, 2017, 08:07:34 PM
Work started on the pram that rolls down the steps during the massacre in the film.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Bigkev on March 02, 2017, 07:00:21 PM
Wow, that takes some skill............
Bigkev
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Roger on March 02, 2017, 07:02:19 PM
Brilliant work!

Roger
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Haddock on March 03, 2017, 08:37:41 AM
What size hammer then?
Haddock.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on March 03, 2017, 01:13:37 PM
What size hammer then?
Haddock.

Just a 14pound lump hammer. It was just a little on the small size for the sledge hammer.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on March 03, 2017, 01:31:33 PM
Very impressed!!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on March 07, 2017, 02:55:16 PM
First figures added to the steps.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on March 07, 2017, 03:08:11 PM
Looking like a massacre to me. You are keeping busy with dead things at the mo, what with Bloodline Cruises and all.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on March 07, 2017, 03:39:49 PM
Looking like a massacre to me. You are keeping busy with dead things at the mo, what with Bloodline Cruises and all.

Don't know what you mean Kitman - just because I only go out at night.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Bigkev on March 07, 2017, 08:21:50 PM
Hi Kiteman,
You're right, he is dead from the neck upwards.

His bodily movements are remotely controlled by 'Joyce' from home.

Uh, Oh................

I feel a cartoon coming on.

Note to self:- Disconnect Martins arm before any future comments.............

Cowering in anticipation...........
Bigkev

Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: bridlufc on March 07, 2017, 09:39:05 PM
Must be something to do with the 'Shirt'

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on March 09, 2017, 09:04:26 AM
So Bigkev and Bridlufc -- whats your name YOU are going on the list -- don't tell him Pike.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on June 01, 2017, 11:14:42 AM
The steps finished - so now back on with the battleship (that will keep Haddock happy )
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on June 01, 2017, 07:25:20 PM
I think that this depicts the scene very well indeed, what an attrocity.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on June 05, 2017, 11:52:51 PM
He will be a "Happy Haddock" now I hope.
The first shot is the small brass tubes in the deck to allow the funnel stays to go through and be fastened. The next 2 shots show the four scratch built boat davits the original one was just a bent bar. The others are to show Haddock I am working so that he will not shout at me next meeting !!!!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Haddock on June 06, 2017, 08:37:17 AM
Lookin' nice.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on June 06, 2017, 10:37:38 AM
Lookin' nice.
Haddock.

Thank you master.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on June 06, 2017, 04:02:01 PM
Looking very nice!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Roger on June 06, 2017, 06:16:25 PM
Nice davits Sir.

Roger
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on June 06, 2017, 08:13:57 PM
Some more work done on the ship. The first shot is one of the mast platforms instead of a round lump for the supports they have been thinned down. The others are the ford mast and the boat davits.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on June 08, 2017, 01:10:39 PM
I do enjoy watching your work....thank you-.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on June 13, 2017, 09:13:09 AM
Thank you Kiteman but this will make you smile.  Rails added to hull side with just some small spots of glue -- decided to put the model onto its side to add some more superglue to fasten the rails all the way along the hull. As you can see squeezed the bottle a little hard and it ran all over the deck -- lots of nautical language. Now another job to try and remove this - at least Haddock is not about to shout at me.
Funnels tapped and black topping added.
Searchlights drilled out on the first 2 in the last photo -- they will then be painted and glass glue added. Second set on the last photo just to show how they look without any work on them
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: zak on June 13, 2017, 10:28:24 AM
Never apply glue from the bottle, you naughty boy.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on June 13, 2017, 11:48:03 AM
Never apply glue from the bottle, you naughty boy.

That's not what I said.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: zak on June 13, 2017, 04:34:19 PM
Never apply glue from the bottle, you naughty boy.

That's not what I said.
Careful, Kevin will moderate you, no that is not a euphuism.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: bridlufc on June 13, 2017, 10:38:01 PM
I must agree with Zak, never apply superglue from the bottle, it can be rather unforgiving if you get it wrong.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on June 14, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
Thank you all for the advice - a little bit late but welcome anyway. The things you do when you are rushing and tired.
I haven't been moderated by Kevin at all - not like some other people !!!!!!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Bigkev on June 14, 2017, 06:24:37 PM
That's cos I like you............!

I've done the direct Superglue thingy myself and have it go wrong. Only thing is I didn't admit to it, so good on yer son!
I'm sure a man of your skills will rectify the problem.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: zak on June 15, 2017, 08:13:57 AM
I always put a blob of superglue on some double sided tape(the non sticky surface) and apply with the eye of a cut off needle.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on June 17, 2017, 12:24:02 PM
Sh$% happens even to the best of us.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on June 28, 2017, 01:18:46 PM
A start made on the pipes running up the outside of the funnels. -- when painted and all 4 finished they will be attached to the funnels 1 each for ford and middle and 2 on the aft funnel.
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Kiteman on June 28, 2017, 06:17:40 PM
fine stuff!
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: Bigkev on June 28, 2017, 08:53:26 PM
From me, Ditto!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Battleship Potemkin
Post by: MSea on August 04, 2017, 09:20:03 PM
Thank you all folks. Back to the lifeboats -- I wonder why we bother sometimes because when I have daubed lots of paint all over it you will not see the difference. But I am as MAD as the rest of you -- so lot of time thinning down the parts of the boat to a more lifelike scale.