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Title: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 09, 2015, 06:56:45 PM
After sorting out the rules for the comp with Kevin - have decided to try and finish the model of the "Chen Yuen." This was put on hold after Haddock showed me how to make an improved mast system for the ship. Just think how happy I used to be  bashing bits of plastic and brass then  fastening rigging to any old bits and bobs - before Haddock showed me the error of my ways.
So if the other project don't progress as quickly as they should (I don't work as fast as Zak) please excuse the slight delay.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 09, 2015, 07:18:58 PM
The first  photo shows the original  home made brass mast with solid brass bar for the yards and everything soldered together. The second shows the improved Haddock method with brass tube for the yards and 2 sections of chain link for the pulley blocks.
The hardest part of both types it drilling the main part of the mast to tke the gaff at an angle of about 45degrees, I could just solder but as you know I am a "ham fisted sort of modeler" and I am sure they would be knocked off during construction - so drill and solder for strength.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Haddock on July 10, 2015, 08:33:50 AM
Interesting looking ship.
Haddock.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 10, 2015, 01:07:23 PM
Hi Haddock according to my research she was built at the Vulcan shipyard in Germany and completed in 1885. Carried 4x 305mm BL guns and displaced 7430t.
Model will be as built, not as she was during Sino-Japanese war 1894-95  (lots more yards and ships boats and bits and bobs to detail her with.)
Captured by the Japanese and renames "Chin Yen" re-armed with 4x12inch guns and served during the Russo-Japanes war 1904-05. Removed from effective list in 1910 and served as a training ship for pilots untill scrapped 1914.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 10, 2015, 02:27:00 PM
Well on with the shrouds and ratlines ( the shrouds are part of the standing rigging and hold up the mast - ratlines are the bits that go across and you use them like rungs on a ladder - as you can see from the photo 3 the shrouds are thicker than the ratlines ) have tried thin electrical wire to get the droop in the ratlines but it didn't work very well and they looked wrong - so back to thread. The jig was very simple to make, but gets the same size each time.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 11, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
More railings added to the structure, and painting the main and secondard gun covers white at the moment. Then on with the ships steam pinnacles - again  brass rails to bend and add.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 12, 2015, 02:27:56 PM
Spray painting the mast, funnel and gun covers. OK at the moment with my new all metal very very very very cheap airbrush from SMW. For the amount of air brush work I do this will do me well - still getting used to it but is good for the money. Thanks Zak for the info about the spray booth.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 12, 2015, 08:44:24 PM
More bits and bobs added.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on July 12, 2015, 09:05:42 PM
Looking good Bob and bits as well.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Bigkev on July 12, 2015, 09:41:59 PM
Msea,
How I love your bits and Bobs..................................
Bigkev
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Haddock on July 12, 2015, 11:47:31 PM
Has this Bob bloke paid his subs??
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 13, 2015, 08:15:55 AM
If BOB is a new member would he not just look us over for a couple of months before deciding to join our group -- so NO SUBS yet Haddock (are you in training to be the new treasurer, has Zak got you thinking about BRASS - thats money not the stuff you put onto the ship models )
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 13, 2015, 01:54:59 PM
Anchor and chains fitted - covers to go on the 2 hawserhole  when dry.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Kiteman on July 13, 2015, 02:53:49 PM
eh up, thats lookin`smashin is that!
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 16, 2015, 02:04:29 PM
Why do they make etch-brass so so so small ????
Work on the boats progressing slowly.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on July 16, 2015, 03:03:36 PM
Did you use the right size chain?
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 16, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
Are you taking the mick because my chain is larger than Haddocks ??????
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on July 16, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
Well it seems strange that a battleship of the era should have 2 torpedo boats onboard - but with the short range and poor sea keeping of the torpedo boats its seem a good idea to have your own army with you at all times.

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Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on July 17, 2015, 07:25:12 AM
Are you taking the mick because my chain is larger than Haddocks ??????
Was I pulling your chain?
Did you mention the scale?
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Kiteman on July 17, 2015, 07:25:29 AM
 I am very impressed, and thanks for the explanation of the nautical terms....I am learning  too!
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Kiteman on July 17, 2015, 07:26:11 AM
Isnt a chain 22 Yards?
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on July 17, 2015, 07:27:24 AM
Isnt a chain 22 Yards?
Yes, in old money.
10 chains make oen furlong, 8 furlongs to the mile.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Kiteman on July 17, 2015, 07:30:47 AM
I remember learning all that at school....1760 Yards in a mile and all that. Endless repetition drums it into yer skull!!
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Haddock on July 17, 2015, 09:16:13 AM
Are you taking the mick because my chain is larger than Haddocks ??????
Size ain't everything y'know!!
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Kiteman on July 20, 2015, 06:20:06 PM
It´s not about size, it`s about proportion!
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on May 16, 2022, 08:59:27 PM
Well its been put away for a while but this one came out for playday 8 - sorry zak serious modelling day 8 - hohhohoho
The machine guns in the fighting tops and the search light now added. Next job is to fit the climbing rigging to the masts.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Haddock on May 17, 2022, 08:03:07 AM
Good luck with that.
Haddock.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: chriswil42 on May 17, 2022, 01:13:35 PM
Good luck with that.
Haddock.
Ditto
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on May 17, 2022, 02:37:45 PM
Ratlines to you!
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: cph64 on May 17, 2022, 04:18:02 PM
As if you don't have enough problems with 'pinging' things all over Cass Hall floor!!!!!
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on May 17, 2022, 04:36:12 PM
At least you all have a photo of me so you can make up your own captions for it - hohohoho -as I always say, "don't dish it out unless you can also take it" - expecting some good comments to go with the photo
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Bigkev on May 17, 2022, 06:53:02 PM
I have visions of Martin pinging bits from all orifices,
Will I be able to sleep tonight...?
Bigkev
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on May 17, 2022, 08:09:27 PM
Ratline fastened to the top of the mast, when dry and solid will fasten the bottom ends and try and get some tension in them.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on May 18, 2022, 08:31:04 AM
In trouble again, will be ANOTHER clip round the ear from Haddock.  Having lost the order of battle plan for this model when my room was done have fastened the ratlines at the top of the aft mast before cleaning out the holes in the double bits of chain representing pulley blocks. So will have to do this and also wire up the pulley blocks for the ships boats in place, will see what damage I will do in the process. The plan was to do this bit before adding the aft mast to the ship - well best, laid plans of mice and men  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on May 18, 2022, 10:27:20 AM
Mice and Martin surely - don't call me..........................
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on May 18, 2022, 12:50:09 PM
Are you the new John Steinbeck with your new title - or should we just stick to fastening bits of plastic together  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: chriswil42 on May 18, 2022, 02:22:24 PM
Such is the life of the modeller.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on May 18, 2022, 08:03:37 PM
Yes the life of a modeler - it seems to involve a lot of naughty nautical language - hohohoh
The holes drilled out with a 1/2 mm drill and then a small reamer used - would have been easier before the mast was fitted to the ship but never mind ,it will get done, then wired up
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Bigkev on May 18, 2022, 08:19:37 PM
Cor Blimey!!
That looks very tiny, and hard to do.
Good Luck.
Bigkev
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: chriswil42 on May 20, 2022, 05:54:17 PM
Very good Martin. Did you use a microscope?
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 13, 2022, 03:26:48 PM
Have been in the doghouse sorting out stuff that was removed when I did my room - and at last found the base for the ship. 
Yes it will be ANOTHER clip round the ear from Haddock - as he says all ships should be placed in some sea - but this one is being done as a museum one.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 13, 2022, 03:36:48 PM
Ship added to the base.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Haddock on June 13, 2022, 05:05:41 PM
Nice!
Haddock.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on June 13, 2022, 05:57:33 PM
Looks good.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 13, 2022, 06:32:45 PM
Thank you both but still a lot of rigging to do - and then the figures, how do you convert 1/350 scale WW2 seaman into a Chinese Lord ?
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Bob C on June 13, 2022, 07:53:52 PM
very nice.

Bob c
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 14, 2022, 09:48:27 PM
More rigging added - even if you can't see it.. Only things left to add now are the bow and stern golden dragons and the plates over the chain holes.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on June 15, 2022, 09:19:19 AM
Splendid, very colourful.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 15, 2022, 10:26:11 AM
Not a shirt in sight - hohohoho
Forgot to say have also to sort out and convert (TRY) and do the figures.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: chriswil42 on June 15, 2022, 03:57:05 PM
Very nice Martin.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 18, 2022, 03:19:58 PM
The 4 bow and stern dragons now fitted.
Yes before you ask one did ping off and took 10mins to find, it pinged off in front of me, and I found it eventually, you guessed it,  behind me - no panto jokes please
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 18, 2022, 04:15:19 PM
Front and back view of the conversion of the seaman figure into a Chinese Lord with yellow flowing robes and a strange hat.
Before you say it, yes I also think I am strange (fit in your own words) to try and convert 1/350 scale figures that nobody will see anyway - but heyho the things you do for FUN.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Bigkev on June 18, 2022, 04:22:44 PM
Hats off to you Msea.
Converting a figure in 1/350th is well...........Mind blowing!
But its you, so we kind of expect it.
What you have done so far is amazing. Cannot wait to see the intricate paint job of dragons and flowers on the robe, ho,ho,ho.
Bigkev
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 18, 2022, 04:49:13 PM
Thanks Kevin but think it will be a bit of yellow and some red blobs for the robe, but we will see now what colour are dragons eyes   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Haddock on June 19, 2022, 07:39:48 AM
Thanks Kevin but think it will be a bit of yellow and some red blobs for the robe, but we will see now what colour are dragons eyes   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Iris or pupil??
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 19, 2022, 08:03:50 AM
Both - yohoho
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: chriswil42 on June 19, 2022, 02:58:42 PM
What colour eyes are you doing?
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 19, 2022, 03:35:44 PM
Crossed - yohoho
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 19, 2022, 08:43:11 PM
More figures added to the ship
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on June 20, 2022, 11:43:07 AM
They will certainly give it a sense of scale.
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 20, 2022, 11:50:49 AM
Now count up on one hand how many of our members will be able to see them - hohohoho  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: zak on June 20, 2022, 03:14:26 PM
Now count up on one hand how many of our members will be able to see them - hohohoho  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Three of us! (you, me and Haddock)
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 20, 2022, 05:43:04 PM
Correct you win the prize - some COULD see them but because its not an plane they don't look - yohoho - claws redrawn
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: chriswil42 on June 22, 2022, 02:47:22 PM
Looking very nice Martin. Will it appear at the next meeting?
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: MSea on June 22, 2022, 08:06:37 PM
Yes Chris and then you can hear Haddock pulling the rigging to bits - but heyho its been fun making it
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: Bigkev on June 22, 2022, 08:44:29 PM
Correct you win the prize - some COULD see them but because its not an plane they don't look - yohoho - claws redrawn

Ouch, that hurt....!
Bigkev
Title: Re: An also-ran in the Maritime Competition from MSea
Post by: chriswil42 on July 01, 2022, 01:03:24 PM
Correct you win the prize - some COULD see them but because its not an plane they don't look - yohoho - claws redrawn
Veryyyyyy funnnnyyyyy.