Bridlington & Wolds Scale Model Club Forum
Models => Modelling Projects => Topic started by: msea on June 04, 2015, 02:26:15 PM
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To keep Haddock quiet and happy - this is the tanker I started a while ago and it is slowly progressing. The model is a Revell kit of the modern tanker Esso Glasgow in 1/400 scale. I am backdating it to the BP British Pride which my father sailed on in 1942. If I can get it finished to about 10% of the quality Haddock gets his ships then I will be happy.
The hull is put together with the decks and brass railings added. The bow had to be modified to make it a straight up and down instead of angled forward as modern ships are.
I am working on making the funnel taller and changing the accommodation front and the masts.
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Mammoth task there, Martin.
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Now I'm a happy bunny.
Haddock.
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You know what happy bunnies do......................
And it's not modelling...............................
Nice work Martin, I look forward to this one.
Bigkev
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Another master amongst us.....Keep it coming!
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Anything to keep Haddock quiet and happy.
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Well this is the bridge - ( as an engineer that is the place that people who are not good enough to become engineers have to go. )
The first shot shows the instruction sheet as the bridge is on the modern tanker, the second shows the changes I have made to backdate it to the British Pride in 1942.
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A very interesting project, especially seeing it has family connections.
I'm watching this one closely
Bigkev
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That's more like it!!
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Fantastic work Martin!
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A happy Haddock what more could the world wish for !!!!!
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A happier Cod??
Bigkev
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This is the jetty and rail track for the oil trucks -- my father said that they discharged oil straight into the railway trucks -- so trying to make some small scale oil trucks. The warehouse is OK (I even got the roof tiles on the correct way round this time, before Zak reminds me about the Hungarian model I made.)
I don't like the rings for fastening the ship and the protection bollards so will change these for smaller types.
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What gauge are they - ha, ha!
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Wowza Martin, i am impressed. How big is the Diorama?
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WOW, thats COOL!
I like it! 8)
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Hi Kiteman the size of the base is 17 x 7 inches and the model scale is 1/400.
Just to upset Dave I did research it and the scale is "T" gauge that is 1/440 and is very very small and very very very expensive - so keeping with the club motto "its got to be cheap" I made my own.
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Hi Kiteman the size of the base is 17 x 7 inches and the model scale is 1/400.
Just to upset Dave I did research it and the scale is "T" gauge that is 1/440 and is very very small and very very very expensive - so keeping with the club motto "its got to be cheap" I made my own.
I have never come across that one, the smallest I know of is "Z" gauge. You learn something every day.
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Here are some odd Japanese scales for ya...including "T":
Japanese
While there are Japanese model railway manufacturers that export their products to other parts of the world and follow the scale standards of the export destinations, in Japan there are several domestic scales that are popular in the country but virtually unknown elsewhere. International NEM and NMRA scales are also used by some Japanese modellers. The main reason for the domestic scales different from international standards is the smaller prototype loading gauge and unusual gauges of Japanese railways: 600 mm (1 ft 11 5⁄8 in), 762 mm (2 ft 6 in) and 1,067 mm (3 ft 6 in) (International standard gauge of 1,435 mm (4 ft 8 1⁄2 in) is also used).
Scale Ratio Gauge Notes
T 1:450/1:480 3 mm (0.118 in) Launched at 2006 Tokyo Toy Show by Eishindo Co.
ZZ 1:300 4.8 mm (0.189 in) Introduced 2005 by Bandai
ZJ 1:220 6.5 mm (0.256 in)
N 1:150/1:160 9 mm (0.354 in) The most popular scale in Japan. For the models of Shinkansen highspeed
trains with a larger loading scale, the international N scale standard ratio
of 1:160 is commonly used.
TT9 1:120 9 mm (0.354 in) Used also in New Zealand.
HOn2½ 1:80 9 mm (0.354 in) Used for 2 ft 6 in (762 mm) narrow gauge.
HOj (12mm) 1:87 12 mm (0.472 in) Correct for 1,067 mm (3 ft 6 in) Japanese narrow gauge.
13mm 1:80 13 mm (0.512 in) Correct for 1,067 mm (3 ft 6 in) Japanese narrow gauge.
HO or #16 1:80/1:87 16.5 mm (0.65 in) Used for ready-to-run models. For the models of Shinkansen high speed
trains with a larger loading scale, the international H0 scale Standard
ratio1:87 is commonly used.
Sn3½ 1:64 16.5 mm (0.65 in) Used for ready-to-run models.
- 1:50 20.5 mm (0.807 in) Static models mostly.
OJ 1:45 24 mm (0.945 in) Correct for 1,067 mm (3 ft 6 in) Japanese narrow gauge.
O 1:45(1:40-1:42) 32 mm (1.26 in) 1:40-1:42 used about 1930s.
35mm 1:30 35 mm (1.378 in) Used for 1,067 mm (3 ft 6 in) Japanese narrow gauge.
45mm 1:30 45 mm (1.772 in)
I hope that this is of some use......many models in these scales are still available in Japan
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Well done Kiteman -- I thought I was clever finding out about "T" gauge. You have definitely put me in my place regarding researching a subject. RESPECT TO YOU.
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Then there are all the narrow gauge variants as well, it is a real minefield.
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Working on the masts - the backdated masts are much simpler and taller than the mast supplied for the new tanker, so making a couple of new ones. They are solid brass bar tapered down with a file and then drilled to take the yardarm - the joint is soldered for strength. Haddock has shown me a much improved way to make the mast so will use that on the next model.
I am also having to increase the height of the funnel and swap the position of the funnel and enginroom skylights.
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Looks good Msea,
Your a leetle devil aren't you, I saw that twinkle in your eye at the meeting................................
Bigkev
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Well this is the fore mast filed for the crows nest to be soldered on and the sections of chain tied on to take the rigging. Just think I used to be very very very happy passing a bit of string round the outside of the mast and slapping a bit of glue on it - then Haddock showed me the error of my ways and how to use bits of chain. Now its cross eyes and a lot of expletives.
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Don't blame me!!.......What size chain are you using? Would you like a bit of 42 links to the inch?
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That was 26 links per inch (stolen from she who must be obeyed) and you know what you can do with your 42 links per inch !!!!!!
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That's the mast finished and the new taller funnel in its new place.
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This inter-web stuff seems to have got you modelling with a will!
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The will is strong but the flesh is weak !!
More bits and bobs added to the ship. Next problem is to add the chain links to the deck for the mast rigging - I forgot to add them before I put the railings on.
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PPP=PPP!.....Now walk the plank.
Haddock
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Hi Msea,
Be glad Col.Tony does not post here (yet), or you'd be on a charge again.
You'll find a way around the problem, but like Haddock says PPP=PPP...................................
On my past efforts I'd be on a charge constantly!
Looking good despite the glitch,
Bigkev
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PPP=PPP!.....Now walk the plank.
Haddock
Doooooh - got there eventually, a bit slow today.
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I'm going cross eyed just looking at the pictures. You ship modellers are "The Bomb"!!
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Or is that 'Bums'?
Bigkev
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I'm going cross eyed just looking at the pictures. You ship modellers are "The Bomb"!!
I agree....it is a discipline for itself, but then again so is every other form of modeling, so I guess that it`s all a discipline for itself which means that it is all one big discipline which cant really be broken down into Sub disciplines without destroying the homogenous nature of the singular discilpline which is modeling itself....so there.
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I thought i just made models !!! Now you are making out we are intellectuals !!!!!
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After a lot of PPP and other PPPs I have decided that as I am a ham fisted sort of modeler and I would end up destroying the rails and other bits if i go back to drilling the deck, so will fasten the rigging to the rails as David Griffith says in his excellent book "Ship Models from Kits" - sorry Haddock but it is only a hobby and for fun and after the last few days with the computer problems the old brain (whats left of it ) would not take any more hassle !!!
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Hi Msea,
I reckon God must be dishing out justice, making you restart your posting. Now at 5, about your age I reckon...........Ho, ho, ho!
Nice work for a five year old though...........
bigkev
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Thats double what I feel at the moment
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Well thats the 2 mast in place.
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A coat of grey makes it look more like a ship !!
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I forgot the photo - like I said the brain is not working very well at the moment -- even more so than normal (its that word normal again )
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That looks nice, can we have one or two close-ups please.
Haddock.
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Seconded!.............................
Bigkev
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No close-ups -- you then see how bad it is.
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c`mon Martin don`t be a spoilsport!
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We don't want a close up of you Msea, just the Tanker please.
We all know how bad you look in daylight.
Bigkev
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I'll show you my close ups if you show me yours - then you'll see how bad things are!! Nice to see the progress last night.
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Well back to the ships - paint on the wood deck, lifeboats and rigging fitted. Now a coat of Klear and then on with the weathering.
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Oil tanks fitted to dock and a change in the mooring rings.
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First layer of filters on the ships hull. Next a coat of Klear and then some rust marks.
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Filters??? They look like paint streaks to me! But seriously....wowza Martin, excellent work!
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Well base finished. Ship fitted to inner base and the first coat of paint on the sea.
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Well on with the crew and some figures in a small boat. If I was Haddock I would be able to paint the faces with eyes and mouth - but its me so they will stay as a pink blob
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Crew back on board.
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Three men and a boat - or was that a film ??????
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Now this is really taking shape, looking most excellent Martin, some good "atmosphere" here, can`t wait to see it in ist entirity.
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Now it won the maritime trophy, you're going to have to post pictures of it! Well done martin. I love the bits of life you always manage to inject into your models.
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It looked great on the day, at the show, it had a certain life about it.
Well done.
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I think Haddock was robbed.
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I think Haddock was robbed.
There's no doubting he is a superb modeller, but it's not always about the most perfectly built kit.
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I think Haddock was robbed.
What-ever you may think, you certainly captured a moment in history so well done. Now it's your turn to polish the bloody thing!
Haddock.
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I think Haddock was robbed.
It will do him good to be robbed for a change.
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Who is Rob?
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....and where are the piccies of the finished model?
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Well now I have a tub of Gloss Gel - reduced price in Hobbycraft - back to finish the sea on this model. After the problems with the HMS Warspite model only a thin layer of gel to go on.