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Title: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on October 26, 2014, 12:22:05 PM
As you guys now know I have managed to get a model club off the ground over here. The Germans are sticklers for rules and regulations and order and apply this to their "Vereins" clubs with loadsa unneccesary Regulation that actually puts most people off. I am a motorcycle rider but do not go to german bike meets because of this mentality. At a meeting there will always be the racer group( Huyabusa, Fireblade etc.), the chopper group (everything with loadsa chrome except Harley Davidson, the Harley group (only Harleys), the Goldwing group and so on and so on and never the twain shall meet. The arrogant swines dont even talk to each other. At one meet I saw a particularly well customised Bandit and was asking the owner a few questions. He asked me what I ride and when I told him a Kawasaki VN 1500, he just turned and walked away. What an ignorant t§%t.
So back to the model club bevor I get too emotional. We are now 12 strong and have our first meeting behind us and I would like to share the variety of models found on our "Tisch" (table).
Our next Meeting is on Tue 28 Oct and one of our number, a nice policewoman called Anne, who can do extraordinary things with an airbrush (no head video please), is giving us a tutorial on airbrushing techniques. I am particularly looking forward to this as I own an airbrush but can`t seem to get along with it.
So heres a few impressions for ya.

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Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on October 26, 2014, 04:28:35 PM
Stick with it and blow the rules,
You must be pleased to have a club up and running.
Nice selection of models as well.
Maybe we need to think about twinning clubs?

On a different tack.
I got rid of my Triumph Thruxton last year - just didn't ride it enough.
It is a bit sad after a lifetime of biking, but I haven't missed it as much as I thought I would.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on October 27, 2014, 11:12:45 AM
Thanks, yes I am pleased that the locals aren`t all collectors and some people do build, and want to share their hobby. The idea of twinning clubs isn`t half bad, maybe that would be a topic for your next meeting tonight, I will certainanly mention it at our meeting tommorow.
Thruxton eh! Nice!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on October 28, 2014, 06:41:33 AM
Hi Kiteman,

Yes, I agree with Zak.

We will certainly discuss it at our next meeting (3rd November) and we will take it from there.

Bigkev   
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on October 28, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
I don't care much for Germans! Bunch of Krauts that's what they are, all of 'em.  Bad eggs!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on October 28, 2014, 08:44:38 PM
Hi Wizzel,

Tut, tut. Not very PC, I am sure we can all get along fine.

Remember there is good and bad on all sides.

Look at me, the bad boy of the club!

Bigkev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on October 29, 2014, 08:51:43 AM
You're not a Fawlty Towers fan then Kev?

That was a quote from that old buffer The Major not me :-)

 
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on October 29, 2014, 11:20:58 AM
Its a bit like the Romans then?
What did they ever do for us?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on October 29, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
you see wizzel, ist all your fault, you started it!
What a splendid meeting we had last night, the atmosphere was bubbly and two members were there that could not make it last time, Jan  and...wait for it.......Bernd Koch ! Wizzel you can laugh now but dont let him catch you he is well over 6 foot and build like a brick shithouse.
We recieved a fantastic little lecture on airbrush techniques that has managed to bring to getting along with my airbrushd that I have never really used. So well done Anne for that!
The Club members are very interested in what I post about the club in this Forum and are keen to here your(the club) replies, and the idea of some affillition between us was positively received.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on October 29, 2014, 08:37:48 PM
Hi Kiteman,

Yes, I'll admit I'm lost on Dave M's Fawlty Tower reference. Too much a sheltered existence I think, perhaps modelling is at fault!!

Glad you had a good meeting, and that perhaps a possible twinning is a possibility.

Cheers,

Bigkev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on December 04, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
We had our meeting last night, and a jolly interesting one it was. Apart from practical demonstrations of tips and tricks from Bernd Koch (pronounced Burnt Cock) we had a great discussion over the problem with displaying swastikas on models over here. (it is actually illegal by the way). The WW2 fans amongst us are really very put out that they are not allowed to display any NS insignia on any of there models. I pointed out that I have a Focke Wolf with swastikas on it........ooooooh! "be carefull" they said "don`t let anyone see it"  Sad isn`t it.
Apart from that, two of the members recognised my little submarine diorama (see Model Blog, something for the weekend) as Submarine 995 in Laboe without any prompting. Marvelous! I take that as a compliment.
So heres a couple of snaps of other peoples models.

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Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on December 04, 2014, 05:59:07 PM
 :)
Sounds like you have a nice group of fellow enthusiasts.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Haddock on December 17, 2014, 04:46:24 PM
Like the ship, is it a kit or scratch-built?
Haddock.
If it's wood, is it tree wood?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on December 18, 2014, 03:16:36 PM
The ship is made of tree wood, ist a kit and is being build by our sole female member. She`s doing a good Job of it too.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on January 30, 2015, 06:14:22 PM
Well we had another Meeting on tuesday. 10 members were present and we have 3 new members bringing our total up to 14. Our youngest member, just joined, is a mere 15 years old and we are all pleased to have a bit of "young blood" in the camp. Our 21 year old member is no longer the junior.
We had a cracking meeting with a vibrant atmosphere. A test and demo was done on.......you guessed it, squadron green putty which went down a treat with orders being placed for the stuff!!!!! I did a demo on how I do my sea Dioramas (watch out Tony, I am coming!) and as usual lots of coffee was drunk.
Aparently It is obvious in my model making that I am British because I am the only person that they know of that uses Humbrol products....Germans don!t you see!
Anyway here, as usual, is an Impression of what our lot achieve. (the cars from Stefan are absolutely superb by the way)

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Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on January 30, 2015, 08:23:25 PM
Hi Kiteman,

Well what a great bunch of modellers you lot are.

It is heartening to hear you have a junior modeller amongst your ranks. His model is as good as many a senior model makers, so give him my congratulations next time you see him.
The cars are as you say superb, I love that diorama/posing of the models. They always are more interesting than just 'stand alone models'. Bases or in your case 'Sea' brings the subject to life.

Well done to all at Havixbeck Model Club.

Bigkev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on January 31, 2015, 07:50:38 AM
Excellent models, perhaps we could collect subs from them too...........................( a treasurer wishes)
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on January 31, 2015, 08:40:36 AM
don`t forget, we have the Euro here!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on January 31, 2015, 09:12:20 AM
I am willing to give you a good exchange rate!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on January 31, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
Don't trust him Zak.  He's not paid me back for his own subs yet!!!

It's truly great to see this taking off after all the initial doubts.  We'll have to get some sort of twinning thing off the ground now that it looks like being a permanent thing.  Just wondering if any of the locals drink tea instead of coffee - or do you not offer it due to the difficulty of getting English teabags?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on January 31, 2015, 03:50:36 PM
they can help themselves to all that I have.........exept the tea bags!!!!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on February 06, 2015, 08:29:15 AM
We over here, don`t have the luxury of model Shows as you do in England. here they are very few and far between and you must travel to get there. However in March there in an International Model Expo just 20 mins down the road so we, as a club, are going to pop along. This will be our first club trip and we are all looking forward to it.  I personally will be very interested on the German perspective. I know that they are a Nation of perfectionists so i will be rivet counting I think...serves èm right!
Here is a link to the show.......check it out, comments welcome.

http://euromodelexpo.jimdo.com/
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on February 08, 2015, 01:38:40 PM
It´s worth checking out the gallerie`s on this website by the way!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 03, 2015, 05:10:34 PM
Another great meeting was had over here with another new member, 15 year old Max. We now have two 15 year old members. It is great to see such young blood in the club. we are looking forward to visiting the Modell Expo mentioned in the last posts. Here, some piccies of models on the table.

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Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on March 03, 2015, 06:04:52 PM
Another great selection of models, some card ones, if I am not mistaken?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on March 03, 2015, 07:02:46 PM
I echo Zak's comments, a wide and varied selection of models.

Well done to all the modellers.........................keep it up.

Bigkev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 04, 2015, 05:32:19 AM
yes, well spotted, we have a card modeller in the Club. He produces the models himself, from scratch.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on March 04, 2015, 07:45:15 AM
yes, well spotted, we have a card modeller in the Club. He produces the models himself, from scratch.
By hand or with a computer?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 04, 2015, 08:46:15 AM
Computer, he markets his kits too!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on March 04, 2015, 09:22:51 AM
Computer, he markets his kits too!

Does he have a website?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on March 04, 2015, 10:37:19 AM
I second, (or third, whichever, I lost count) the varied selection of both subject and medium.  It's a grand thing you did, getting this thing off the ground and nice to see the younger ones joining in too.  Was that FW190 with the swastika brought by one of the German members?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 04, 2015, 03:52:56 PM
Yes it was....and he sent a mail to all members beforehand warning them that he would be bringing a model with such severe markings! Of course nobody objected.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 04, 2015, 04:15:10 PM
Zak, he doesn`t have a Website but will furnish me with his electronic catalogue and his personal forum where all his models are built and photographed. As soon as I have the info I will get it to you.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on March 04, 2015, 05:50:14 PM
Zak, he doesn`t have a Website but will furnish me with his electronic catalogue and his personal forum where all his models are built and photographed. As soon as I have the info I will get it to you.
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Thanks, I look forward to that.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 05, 2015, 07:38:11 AM
So here it is...to access Olis models you will have to create an account...costs nothing, is quick and easy. Then you can rumage around until you find Olis Models. Should you have any problems with the language or whatever,, let me know and I will gladly assist.

http://olliskartonmodelle.forumieren.com/
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on March 05, 2015, 10:34:05 AM
I can tell you from personal experience that Zak will have no trouble with language.  He can swear and cuss with the best of 'em!  Anyhow you'd be no help Kiteman, you can't speak English anymore ;-)
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on March 05, 2015, 11:00:51 AM
Now gentlemen behave.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on March 05, 2015, 11:59:22 AM
Now gentlemen behave.
:P Pfffffft, LOL
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 05, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
Of course I can Englisch speak.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on March 05, 2015, 03:33:32 PM
Zak is at a slight disadvantage because he doesn't really know what tinkers we are when we get together.  Heaven help him if we ever meet on a twinning event and he sees what chaos we can cause when we don't have the restrictions of "virtual boundaries" to keep us apart.   :D   
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on March 05, 2015, 03:58:48 PM
Zak is at a slight disadvantage because he doesn't really know what tinkers we are when we get together.  Heaven help him if we ever meet on a twinning event and he sees what chaos we can cause when we don't have the restrictions of "virtual boundaries" to keep us apart.   :D
Or you other halves perhaps?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on March 13, 2015, 07:05:44 PM
You can tell Doro that her Albatross is superb!  Incredible that it's her first ever model.  Not only a bi-plane but a fantastically clean looking kit too!  Them markings look painted on, they've settled ever so well.  Not a join line in sight and it looks dead plumb too.  She should be rightly proud.  If she's got £12.00 spare we'd be glad to have her as a member of the Brid gang.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 17, 2015, 08:32:38 PM
....and she is also proud of her tiny DR1!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 28, 2015, 10:56:26 AM
So another month, another meeting and with all but one members present our living room was full. There was so much on the table that I can not show all of it, but here are a few pictures to give you a flavour. The standard is getting better and more varied. We discussed twinnig our clubs and they are all up for it, we (the brits and the germans) ned to sort out the formalities and put something in writing if thats ok with you guys. Let me know.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 28, 2015, 11:03:24 AM
Here are the photos by the way:

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Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on March 28, 2015, 03:14:19 PM
Looking good, lots of models.
Is that the Tamiya Field kitchen or someone else, I presume it is 1/35.
I am only really interested in the horses.
Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on March 28, 2015, 07:56:04 PM
Hi Kiteman,

The twinning of the two clubs was discussed at the AGM of the club, and was positively received by those present. As you point out it is perhaps only the finer detail we need to sort out to make it a mutually beneficial coming together.
Perhaps you might want to email me directly to go and discuss what we can do, to make it work for both clubs.
Cheers,
Bigkev

PS. Lots of good stuff coming out of Havixbeck Model Club, you guys are going great guns, keep it up! 
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on March 30, 2015, 08:09:14 AM
Many thanks for your kind words, we do our best. I dont know from which manufacturer the field kitchen is but I can find out, and I will.
Kev: I will drop you a line regarding the formalities of twinning our clubs.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on March 30, 2015, 08:13:00 AM
Hi Kiteman,
Thanks,
it may take a couple of days for me to reply as I am working late this week, but I will get back to you ASAP.
Cheers,
Kev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: OLVAR on May 30, 2015, 01:53:36 PM
Grüß Gott Kameraden......................... ;D Sorry my english is bad.

I'm the new here and am pleased to be with you.
I hope we have a great time together.

Why do I write this here?
I also come from Havixbeck, where I met Terry and Doro.
I build cardboard models but at the time I may also build plastic.
What I have seen here in models is quite amazing and I hope a lot to learn here.

Kind Regards

Olli

P.s. the Fieldkitchen is from TAMIYA  :)
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on May 30, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
Nice to see you on the website.
My German may be worse than your English!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on May 30, 2015, 02:35:35 PM
Hi Olvar(Olli),
Welcome aboard. I look forward to your posts in the future.

Don't worry about the English, we are much worse in German. Modelling does not need a language, just a love of the hobby overcomes such small problems.
Nice to have you join us,
Regards,
Bigkev



Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on May 30, 2015, 05:17:42 PM
Wilkommen (welcome), gut das du dabei bist (good to have you with us), ich freue mich deine Arbeit zu sehen außerhalb unser Club treffen,(looking forward to seeing your work outside of our club meetings.)
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: msea on May 31, 2015, 10:55:33 AM
Hi Olli don't bother about the English most of our group can't speak it properly anyway - good to have you on board.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on May 31, 2015, 11:00:53 AM
Hi Olli don't bother about the English most of our group can't speak it properly anyway - good to have you on board.
We dunt writ to wel ither.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on June 02, 2015, 10:46:27 AM
Hi Olli don't bother about the English most of our group can't speak it properly anyway - good to have you on board.
We dunt writ to wel ither.

...and that's from an ex-teacher!  Mind you, it was chemistry not English - must have got a bit too close to some of the subject matter, eh Heisenberg?
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on June 02, 2015, 10:53:28 AM
Hi Olli don't bother about the English most of our group can't speak it properly anyway - good to have you on board.
We dunt writ to wel ither.

...and that's from an ex-teacher!  Mind you, it was chemistry not English - must have got a bit too close to some of the subject matter, eh Heisenberg?
That may be a bit of physics. I find that my workbench is a bit like the Heisenberg principle, if I know something is on it I can't find it, If it isn't supposed to be on it then I can find it?
Confused now or what.
I am much better with a bit of Schrödinger really. Especially his cat.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on June 02, 2015, 11:43:55 AM
Was that a buttered cat???
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on June 04, 2015, 06:19:03 PM
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Was that a buttered cat???
uote]We might find out next week if our 'Skype' experiment goes to plan

Bigkev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on June 04, 2015, 06:39:45 PM
Dont forget to let me know when you want to try a rehersal
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on June 04, 2015, 07:38:22 PM
It's on my list of 'to do's'

But a lot going on at moment.

Bigkev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: OLVAR on June 23, 2015, 10:02:46 AM
Here is the news report of our meetings in Havixbeck.
I am the third from the left

Go to here, on site two:   http://www.stadtanzeiger-coesfeld.de/39d441cf59f2c62af6a50e725adcd008/?tx_news_pi1

 and then on:

"Kleine Dinge sind großes Thema"
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on July 02, 2015, 09:52:26 AM
Wow, a link to the whole paper, thanks Oli.  If you want to see the article, it is on page 2 (click on "2" at the top) then look for the picture that you've now seen in the newsletter - 8th picture down.

As a point on interest, if you click on "BAUMBERGE" on the left hand side of the big picture on the front page, the little castle is where Terry and Doro got married!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on October 01, 2015, 06:28:05 AM
So, we celebrated our 1st Birthday on tuesday. Our first year as a club has been splendid and when one considers that I just tried to make contact with one or two people for a get together now and then, I think that we can be proud to have a thriving club with 17 members, monthly meetings, a whats app modelbuilding forum, and loadsa fun. Our members these days range from 10 years old up to 74 years old with some bloody good modelmakers in there. I find it refreshing that we have such young people active in our Club, and that we are not just a club of old farts (me included) that stick plastic together. We are now contemplating putting on a small exhibition of our Club and models at the local Havixbeck Spring Fair next year. Not a patch on the Brid show but a chance to publicly show off our interest.
So one year gone with hopefully many more to come,
Here are a couple of piccies of models on the table, (not many I´m afraid because everybody brought cakes for the birthday celebrations and not models.)

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Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on October 01, 2015, 07:05:15 AM
Hi Kiteman,

Nice looking models

Congratulations on your first Birthday!!

Bigkev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on July 12, 2016, 04:48:14 PM
So ...hello, and after a very long pause I am back.
To cut a Long Story short, I have made some pretty big alterations to the house, have been very busy workwise and had virtually no time for modelling compunded with the fact that the modelling room has been out of action during the build phase on the house. But, all done now, modelling room back in one piece and time to get cracking again...and I am looking forward to it.
In the meantime we (the Havixbeck Model Club) have for the first time showed our models in public at our local spring fair with a make and take sponsored from Revell. That event went well, Wizzel was there so he can fill you all in on the details if you are interested.
We will be working together with a local historian over the next couple of years at least providing Dioramas for his public presentations of local events during WW2. We had a Flac Station, a V1 launching Station (still here in the woods) and some considerable action over and in Havixbeck so plenty to model and learn about about the area where I live....all good stuff.
At the end of this month we as a club are visiting Revell in Bunde for a day out including shop till you drop at ridiculous prices...I am looking forward to that!
In September we have a Joint Project with a proffessional photographer for a culture weekend in a nearby town. He wants to photograph our models and then set them in a realistic setting under the theme of "minature reality" The photos will be projected onto buildings in the town and in his Studio the public can see the models for real on display and see modelling taking place. In Addition to that we will have a static Display of some of the stages invoved in building a model, and for that we have several models in 1:48 kindly provided by Revell (our best friends) at no cost to us.

So lots going on for the little Club that we are, and lots of different things other that just putting your models on a table and letting people look at them.

I will be posting my future builds in the forum and look forward to the good old retoric and abuse that I am used to.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: zak on July 12, 2016, 05:54:00 PM
Wow, busy, busy busy.
Your little club seems to have generated a lot of interest.
Great stuff and well done.

Long time no post.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Bigkev on July 12, 2016, 07:14:06 PM
Hi Kiteman,

Great to have you back, and the guys at Havixbeck Model Club.
Sounds like you've had a lot on.
Look forward to hearing about all those interesting items in due course.
Nice to see you posting again.................................'The Family' is now complete once more.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Haddock on July 12, 2016, 09:10:03 PM
Welcome back.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Wizzel on July 13, 2016, 09:45:17 AM
Good to see you back on here, Herr Kiteman, and looking forward to seeing updates on your latest projects.  It's good to hear you're back at the bench.
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Kiteman on September 08, 2016, 08:04:10 AM
Cheers guys!
We have an interesting and different project on the go at the mo.....On 24th Sep there will be a "Night of culture" in a town nearby and we have been invited to take part in this event together with a local proffesional photographer. The event officially begins at 6 o clock (18:00 Hrs) and runs until about midnight. The whole of the pedestrian zone will be filled with singers, dancers, artists, poem readers, and all sorts of gubbins to do with art and culture. So what have we to do with all this. Well.....a photographer has been taking pictures of our models over the last few weeks and these photos are being embedded into a presentation entitled "Reality in Minature" (very arty if you ask me). This presentation of our models and the phototgraphers handy work will be projected onto the side of a building for all to see.(30 feet high) Simultaneously and at the same time we (the model Club) will be in the photosStudio with a static display fo the photographed models so that people can be astounded at the real size of the models. A display of model building will be going on and a display of airbrush techniques  will be given from one of our members. A make and take has been sponsored once again from Revell so people can also have a go. It is something different and should turn out to be a fun filled evening if................the weather is good!
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: Roger on September 08, 2016, 03:05:00 PM
Sounds like a fun event.  I think I'd have nightmares at the thought of my work being blown up that big - honestly it looks a lot better in a really really small photo!
Good luck with the event

Roger
Title: Re: Havixbeck Model Club
Post by: MSea on September 08, 2016, 04:23:06 PM
Good to see you back with the rest of OUR group.
Your group seems to be going from strength to strength.