Bridlington & Wolds Scale Model Club Forum

Models => Modelling Projects => Topic started by: zak on May 29, 2022, 11:59:02 AM

Title: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 29, 2022, 11:59:02 AM
I have looked at these kits from Inpact for some time and they were always above what I was prepared to pay for them.
I discovered some at a more reasonable price and decided to build them.
These kits originate from 1966 and are in 1:48 scale.
The first is the Deprerdussin 1911.
The kit was later produced by Pyro, Life Like Hobby Kits and then Lindberg.

Used by many flying schools this model depicts the version with a 50 HP rotary Gnome engine. It has a very shallow fuselage that was a mere 12 inches deep. It used wing warping for control. The sports variants won many races at the time.
Aircraft controls consisted of a wheel mounted on an inverted U-shaped yoke, the uprights of which were outside the fuselage structure. Fore and aft movement of the entire yoke operated the elevator and the wheel operated the wing warping. The rudder was controlled by pedals. The undercarriage consisted of a pair of trapezoidal frames, each braced by a diagonal member extended forwards to form a short upcurved skid to protect the propeller in the case of nose-overs, with a pair of wheels carried on a sprung cross axle between the two frames.
An example is held at the Shuttleworth Collection, but this has the Anzanti engine.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 29, 2022, 12:03:02 PM
The kit was originally purchased from a Fenwick store for 3s/6d.
The moulding is sharp and parts are well moulded, very nice for a kit produced in 1966.
I started it before I took any photos, hence those above from Scalemates.
The instructions and exploded view lead to an easy and clear assembly sequence.

It has been suggested that bleached linen would be the appropriate colour with wooden undercarriage, I have just found a recipe that I may try – Tamiya XF2 x 10 + XF55 x1. I did, but added 1 x XF59 as it looked a bit gray.
Metal parts are light or dark grey as are the tyres.
On the Shuttleworth one, the fuel tank is brass, but this has the Anzani engine.
The kit suggestion is silver.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 29, 2022, 01:16:48 PM
This will be interesting - models and history all in one.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 29, 2022, 01:20:23 PM
This will be interesting - models and history all in one.
I like to educate you Martin - is it still possible?
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Haddock on May 29, 2022, 01:24:02 PM
This will be interesting - models and history all in one.
I like to educate you Martin - is it still possible?
Nah!!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 29, 2022, 02:46:08 PM
Still from the film "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines".
Information about the controls.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 30, 2022, 07:27:04 AM
Assembly and painting in progress.
Parts are not attached simply in place.
I went with a silver tank.
I did try to shade the ribs but it does not show up very well.

I am still unsure about the colour for bleached doped linen.
On the real preserved examples it always seems to have a yellowish tinge - to my eyes anyway!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 30, 2022, 10:03:37 AM
Looking GREAT - the yellowish tinge, is that how it was, or is that how it has aged on the preserved examples. 
You could do 2 , one cream on the runway in 1911 about to take off and the second yellowish in a museum setting  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 30, 2022, 10:59:35 AM
Looking GREAT - the yellowish tinge, is that how it was, or is that how it has aged on the preserved examples. 
You could do 2 , one cream on the runway in 1911 about to take off and the second yellowish in a museum setting  ;D ;D ;D
Will you buy me a second one?
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 30, 2022, 12:13:41 PM
I have 50 pence left in the bank after doing my room out at IKEA  - would that do  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 30, 2022, 01:01:03 PM
I have 50 pence left in the bank after doing my room out at IKEA  - would that do  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I will collect tomorrow!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 30, 2022, 04:23:03 PM
Just melting the chocolate to make the 50pence - hohohhoho
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 31, 2022, 01:32:11 PM
I have added some turnbuckles, that need painting, they may not show up on these photos as I have only done the ones under the wings as a trial.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: cph64 on May 31, 2022, 02:30:06 PM
Another great build. If you're not happy with the bleached linen look then you could lighten one of the available linen colours? I thought I'd seen a photo of one of these in my references but it doesn't appear to be in 'Wings over Yorkshire' which covers from the first planes here to the 1930s. Lots of different makes but not this one.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on May 31, 2022, 02:38:53 PM
I have just reviewed a book and it gave the mixture as stated, but it looks a little grey.
In truth I am not sure about any colour.
Here we are, taking off, flying and landing.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 02, 2022, 07:10:48 AM
Next it is the Bleriot Monoplane from 1908'
This is the version powered by the 35 hp Anzani, 3 cylinder engine.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on June 02, 2022, 07:57:35 AM
Did you ever fly in one of these Zak - thought 1908 was about the correct date - hohohohohoho
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 02, 2022, 08:20:37 AM
Did you ever fly in one of these Zak - thought 1908 was about the correct date - hohohohohoho
I think you just beat me to it.
Hot air balloon for  you - well hot air anyway. (Ha Ha)
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 02, 2022, 08:39:04 AM
If only it were this easy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBwNJ-PZsc
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on June 02, 2022, 03:56:47 PM
An excellently produced model Dave.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 03, 2022, 02:18:48 PM
Bleriot under construction.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: cph64 on June 03, 2022, 02:53:29 PM
Looks like you've had to fettle lots of ejector pin marks. Our youngest son and his wife live below Dover Castle so we've been to the site where Bleriot 'landed'. It's more of an incline than it appears in photos,
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 04, 2022, 07:08:05 AM
Yes, lots of those.
Coming together .now
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on June 04, 2022, 08:30:08 AM
Looking great when is the first flight  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 04, 2022, 11:12:19 AM
Looking great when is the first flight  ::) ::) ::)
Now!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 04, 2022, 11:13:12 AM
Finished.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on June 04, 2022, 02:18:39 PM
Excellent - what is next ?
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 04, 2022, 02:23:30 PM
Excellent - what is next ?
Trust you to ask!

Inpact Kits 1:48 Martin Handasyde 1910
This does look similar to an Antoinette, it is certainly of that type. It is a smaller and stronger aircraft with many interesting features.
The undercarriage had telescopic legs to each half axle, the weight was supported on a leaf spring below the axle.
A J.A.P (J.A. Prestwich) engine was used, so a radiator was not required and the oil was kept away from the pilot by a plate attached to the control column.
Direction was effected by wing warping. Martin Handasyde Monoplanes were made at Brooklands and were available in single and double seat versions, the 2-seater had a gnome engine fitted.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on June 04, 2022, 03:11:29 PM
Excellent monoplane. The metal struts look great too as well as the rigging.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Bob C on June 06, 2022, 07:25:47 PM
i like these a lot.

Bob c
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 08, 2022, 07:42:13 AM
Construction and painting underway.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 08, 2022, 02:01:32 PM
More parts stuck together.
The large screen on the "joystick" is a shield to keep oil off the pilot - every convenience included!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on June 08, 2022, 03:24:39 PM
Looking very nice.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 09, 2022, 02:21:34 PM
Rigging, turn buckles still to be added and painted.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 09, 2022, 02:29:39 PM
Next it will be the Bristol Boxkite 1910. A copy of the Henri Farman, but had more refined metal fittings. It was generally better built than the French produced Farman.
This was the Bristol and Colonial  Aeroplane Company.
It should really be called The Bristol Standard Biplane.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: cph64 on June 09, 2022, 02:49:12 PM
The Handasyde looks great even if it does look like the pilots sat in a winged bathtub!! Lots of rigging and struts to keep you occupied with the Boxkite.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 09, 2022, 04:00:43 PM
Finished.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on June 09, 2022, 04:14:40 PM
Excellently finished there Dave. The Boxkite should be  good.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 11, 2022, 04:05:52 PM
Parts constructed on a template.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on June 11, 2022, 08:13:04 PM
Hi Zak,
Keep 'em coming, they all look good.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on June 12, 2022, 12:51:52 PM
Looking good so far.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 12, 2022, 02:19:44 PM
More progress on the wings and tail plane.
Large Aluminium plate courtesy of the Brooklands Road Ship Yard. Or Haddocks den.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on June 15, 2022, 04:03:43 PM
Tricky.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 22, 2022, 12:09:34 PM
Normal service will resume when Sandra is better after her hip operation.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on June 22, 2022, 02:15:35 PM
Hi Zak,
Hope that she gets back to her old self soon and she can then keep you under control...!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on June 22, 2022, 02:23:30 PM
Hi Zak,
Hope that she gets back to her old self soon and she can then keep you under control...!
Bigkev
Nearly there - under control that is. Sandra is making good progress.
I just love ironing!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on June 22, 2022, 02:38:54 PM
Good luck.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on June 22, 2022, 08:42:20 PM
Hi Zak,
Hope that she gets back to her old self soon and she can then keep you under control...!
Bigkev
Nearly there - under control that is. Sandra is making good progress.
I just love ironing!

Oh great,
I'll send mine around whilst you are so positive....!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on September 16, 2022, 09:35:53 AM
After a long break, it is back to the Bristol Box kite, this is quite large and fragile and so I have been allowing joints to fully cure before moving on. Ready for a coat of bleached dope.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on September 16, 2022, 03:17:22 PM
Looks good though.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on September 18, 2022, 10:42:48 AM
Rigging underway.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Haddock on September 18, 2022, 11:09:40 AM
Very neat.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on September 19, 2022, 12:25:14 PM
Rigging just about compete, drove me ,mad!
A few bits to tidy up and a coat of varnish still to be done.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on September 19, 2022, 12:56:22 PM
Don't  you mean "madder"  yoyoyo  - it looks great
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Haddock on September 19, 2022, 03:11:30 PM
Looks good.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on September 20, 2022, 02:13:50 PM
Cripes! That's amazing Dave. It's exquisite. Is this for the Christmas competition?
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 13, 2022, 12:08:40 PM
Well after a few weeks off and having no modelling room I have decided to try to get back into it,
This is the last of this series:
The AVRO Triplane, 1910, designed by Mr. A.V. Roe. Originally fitted with a 9HP J.A.P engine, later models had the 35HP Green engine.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 13, 2022, 12:49:51 PM
Some construction work started.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Bob C on October 13, 2022, 01:23:15 PM
The Box Kite is a beautiful looking model.

Bob c
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: cph64 on October 13, 2022, 04:27:22 PM
I think i would have given up trying to rig the Boxkite!! Well done. I like the ribs and frames on the Triplane.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 14, 2022, 07:44:17 AM
More glueing and waiting.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Haddock on October 14, 2022, 10:39:52 AM
Good to see some precision engineering taking place!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 14, 2022, 10:53:45 AM
Good to see some precision engineering taking place!
Not from me, hard to get a straight wing on this triplane!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 14, 2022, 11:18:31 AM
More wing warping!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 14, 2022, 12:03:40 PM
While the glue cures/sets, I thought I would start this:
It is the Monogram Wright Brothers Kitty Hawk, described as 1:48 scale.
It contains 2 figures.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 14, 2022, 03:27:55 PM
Lots of ejector pins marks to fill and sand.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 16, 2022, 09:17:01 AM
Back to the AVRO - more progress, very hard to get all the wing parts to line up.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on October 16, 2022, 10:02:13 AM
You will do it - I have FULL confidence in you  ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 17, 2022, 09:52:46 AM
Some rigging done.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on October 17, 2022, 10:05:59 AM
Well rigged that man - now what will Haddock say  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Haddock on October 17, 2022, 03:57:24 PM
Well rigged that man - now what will Haddock say  :o :o :o
Splendid!!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Bob C on October 17, 2022, 07:32:55 PM
Looking good, the Kitty Hawk is a really old kit if I remember correctly.

Bob c
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 18, 2022, 05:39:28 PM
Yes, Bob, like me a very old kit!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: Bob C on October 18, 2022, 07:20:49 PM
Only as old as you feel.

Bob c
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on October 19, 2022, 02:39:57 PM
Some great modelling there Dave and exquisite rigging. Are you cross-eyed after that?
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 19, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
Just cross!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 22, 2022, 11:10:28 AM
Finished at last, lots of rigging.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on October 22, 2022, 11:30:30 AM
Another excellent model -- will we see it at club meeting
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 22, 2022, 12:18:45 PM
Probably, that and the box kite at the next meeting.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on October 23, 2022, 12:44:06 PM
An excellent model Dave.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 27, 2022, 10:50:39 AM
Tail plane assembly on the Wright Flyer.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 30, 2022, 09:06:40 AM
Wings painted and assembled and some rigging started.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on October 30, 2022, 11:29:44 AM
Was just thinking - did you see the Wright Flyer on its maiden flight   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 30, 2022, 02:30:10 PM
Of course, I waved at you, don't you remember.
More progress.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on October 30, 2022, 03:01:50 PM
So you was the old man in the crowd - hohohohoh
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 31, 2022, 07:32:26 AM
So you was the old man in the crowd - hohohohoh
Now behave, better than being the old woman in the crowd,
Enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on October 31, 2022, 02:41:37 PM
Just about finished, the pilot is still to paint and add.
This is certainly not 1:48 as described on the box.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on October 31, 2022, 09:18:58 PM
Whatever scale it looks GREAT
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: cph64 on November 01, 2022, 01:43:07 PM
Fabnstic work, as ever, on these early aircraft.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on November 02, 2022, 03:22:39 PM
Superb model Dave. It certainly looks the part.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on November 03, 2022, 09:53:54 AM
Pilot added, now complete.

I think that maybe it for early aircraft, but these do look tempting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBwNJ-PZsc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjmUQOwgIs
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: MSea on November 03, 2022, 10:20:34 AM
Excellent way to show the build - lots of skill needed in both the build and the animation - now when does yours arrive ?
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: zak on November 03, 2022, 03:29:30 PM
Excellent way to show the build - lots of skill needed in both the build and the animation - now when does yours arrive ?
It is just the price that is stopping me.
Title: Re: Early Aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on November 04, 2022, 01:22:28 PM
Brilliant model Dave.