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Title: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 22, 2022, 01:02:32 PM
Rather than have the individual models all over the place I think I will now group them in this thread.
Here are the one I have already built.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 22, 2022, 01:06:35 PM
Here is the latest.
A 1:72 Airfix Gloster Gladiator in Belgium Air Force colours from 1938.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on January 22, 2022, 01:12:53 PM
I call Haddock Admiral because he has a fleet of ships - so what shall I call you now you have an airforce  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 22, 2022, 01:42:36 PM
I call Haddock Admiral because he has a fleet of ships - so what shall I call you now you have an airforce  :o :o :o :o :o
I am sure your overactive mind will think of something!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on January 22, 2022, 03:49:50 PM
Magnificent. You must have used miles of thread and wire.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on January 22, 2022, 04:29:45 PM
I see this is the new Airfix moulding. I got the old moulding to practice rigging on and it's nowhere near as good as this, damn!!!!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on January 22, 2022, 06:54:39 PM
Hi Zak,
Did you run out of paint for the tail wheel on the Gladiator.........?
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 23, 2022, 07:04:37 AM
Hi Zak,
Did you run out of paint for the tail wheel on the Gladiator.........?
Bigkev
OOOps - an oversight, will rectify asap.
Thanks Kev.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 23, 2022, 07:06:22 AM
I see this is the new Airfix moulding. I got the old moulding to practice rigging on and it's nowhere near as good as this, damn!!!!
It is quite a nice kit. all errors are due to the operators eyes!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on January 23, 2022, 07:43:54 AM
All my errors are due to the operators brain - or lack of it
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 24, 2022, 12:39:44 PM
Started this Revell 1/72 Stearman at Cass Hall on Sunday.
After filling the ejector marks.
I have just attached the top wing.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 25, 2022, 08:55:06 AM
This has now been undercoated in white and the yellow applied.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on January 25, 2022, 02:22:12 PM
Looking good - looking yellow!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on January 25, 2022, 03:51:54 PM
You're really getting into 'Golden Winged' aircraft. Moving on to the monoplanes, Wildcat, Dauntless?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 26, 2022, 01:58:35 PM
Decals transfers applied.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on January 26, 2022, 04:30:13 PM
Looks a lot nicer now it's "decorated", all the yellow looked too much.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 27, 2022, 11:25:52 AM
Rigged, needs tidying up and a coat of matt varnish.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on January 27, 2022, 01:24:34 PM
That looks really nice.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 27, 2022, 03:33:51 PM
Thanks Chris.
Here are the 3 together.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 27, 2022, 03:35:59 PM
Here is  1:72 A Model Hawker Fury MkII, a very basic kit.
I am not happy with the Aluminium finish, I used Vallejo silver and the gloss varnish.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on January 27, 2022, 04:13:13 PM
Speedy or what?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 27, 2022, 04:16:55 PM
Speedy or what?
Or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on January 28, 2022, 12:45:05 PM
Speedy or what?
Or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The build time not the aircraft.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 28, 2022, 12:57:07 PM
Speedy or what?
Or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The build time not the aircraft.
Ha, ha, I got that! I was attempting humour - I know sad.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 28, 2022, 05:44:57 PM
I am struggling with some A Models biplanes and finding them a real challenge.
Poorly formed parts and so on.
The joys of modelling.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on January 28, 2022, 08:04:51 PM
I am struggling with some A Models biplanes and finding them a real challenge.
Poorly formed parts and so on.
The joys of modelling.
I find the smaller Amodel kits use quite a soft plastic which doesn't help.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 30, 2022, 10:54:29 AM
This is the 1:48 Amodels DH-60G Gipsy Moth.
It will be finished as flown by Amy Johnson.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 30, 2022, 11:56:59 AM
Found the fit of the parts a challenge.
Here it is after painting various parts and a horrendous assembly stage.
Some very choice words were used.
Just waiting for the gloss varnish to cure before attempting the rigging.
Wing joints had to be strengthened with brass rod.
Even so, I found the fitting difficult.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 30, 2022, 03:22:53 PM
I feel that I have had lots of problems with this, the colour did not go on well and the varnish seems to be odd, bit I have used it on other kits.
It must be me.
There is some interior detail.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 31, 2022, 02:40:02 PM
Well apart from varnish and weathering that is it.
One for the shelf of shame maybe.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on January 31, 2022, 02:41:39 PM
Here is the twin to the Sopwith Swallow, the Scooter.
1:72 scale.
Still needs some weathering and tidying up and a final coat of varnish.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on January 31, 2022, 07:03:40 PM
Cor! Bloomin Lovley, That!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on February 01, 2022, 12:44:18 PM
Yeah amazing. The Gipsey Moth still looks good Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 10, 2022, 10:16:55 AM
Here is a 1:72 Bristol M.IC.
I have now fixed that bit of rogue rigging by the undercarriage frame.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 10, 2022, 10:47:32 AM
This is the 1:72 Matchbox Gloster Gladiator.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 10, 2022, 02:25:36 PM
Comparison of Airfix and Matchbox.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 11, 2022, 07:54:45 AM
Vickers FB 19 MkI - Bullet
This was a British single seat fighting scout developed from the Barnwell Bullet prototype.
Around 65 were built, 6 early production models were found unsuitable for fighting in France in late 1916.
The Mk II were sent to the Middle East. They were not a popular aircraft.
The Russians procured between 20 and 30 of the type, some unarmed ones served as trainers. At least 4 went to front line units and the ace Grigoriy Suk claimed 2 victories.

The kit is from Kovozavody Prostejov and is in 1:72 scale.
The kit contains one sprue and decals.
I have finished mine as a MkI and that in the service of Imperial Russian Air Service.

Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on February 11, 2022, 08:18:14 AM
Looks nice, the collection must be quite large now.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on February 11, 2022, 03:05:15 PM
All hail the master of aircraft rigging. Excellent models Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on February 12, 2022, 09:16:27 AM
How many have you got now and how many to go   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 12, 2022, 03:44:20 PM
How many have you got now and how many to go   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Don't ask, too many.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 13, 2022, 12:26:50 PM
This was the Stearman thread.
This is the Big one.
This is the 1/32 ICM kit, and very nice it looks too.
Seat belts mocked up.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on February 13, 2022, 05:00:41 PM
Hi Zak,
Looking very impressive.
No doubt the next one in the pile is a 1/1 Stearman........?
Bigkev
 
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 13, 2022, 05:27:39 PM
Hi Zak,
Looking very impressive.
No doubt the next one in the pile is a 1/1 Stearman........?
Bigkev
1/4 scale maybe?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bob C on February 13, 2022, 06:25:27 PM
An excellent collection with some lovely rigging.

Bob c
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on February 14, 2022, 01:32:29 PM
It looks big. What is the wing span? There will be plenty of detail on this one.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 14, 2022, 01:34:43 PM
It looks big. What is the wing span? There will be plenty of detail on this one.
Just over 12 inches, or do you prefer 30 cm?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on February 14, 2022, 01:36:27 PM
It looks big. What is the wing span? There will be plenty of detail on this one.
Just over 12 inches, or do you prefer 30 cm?
I'm imperial but I can work with both. Are you hanging this from the ceiling?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 14, 2022, 01:37:57 PM
It looks big. What is the wing span? There will be plenty of detail on this one.
Just over 12 inches, or do you prefer 30 cm?
I'm imperial but I can work with both. Are you hanging this from the ceiling?
I think I may have to, no room left!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 15, 2022, 07:38:58 AM
While the paint cures on the Stearman.
I have been building the old Frog now Novo Westland Wallace, the decals broke up and were very badly cracked, will have to get some for the lettering on the wings and the sides G- ACBR.
Meanwhile I can rig it and continue painting the Stearman.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on February 15, 2022, 08:49:15 AM
Now I'm losing track of where you are!!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 15, 2022, 09:09:37 AM
Now I'm losing track of where you are!!
Me too. but mostly in Bempton.
As you know I have several kits on the go at once. Sorry!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 15, 2022, 01:59:23 PM
Here is the Wallace (1;72 scale) with some rigging in place.
Don't look too closely though!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 16, 2022, 07:48:40 AM
Fuselage on the 1:32 Stearman painted.
I added some spark plugs and leads from plastic rod and wire.
Engine detailed and painted.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on February 16, 2022, 02:55:24 PM
Both models are looking really good. Wish I could work as quickly as you Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on February 16, 2022, 03:33:13 PM
I think he is identical quads and the other 3 are locked in the attic and only given food when they have completed a model - hohohohho - now i am in BIG trouble
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 16, 2022, 03:37:44 PM
I think he is identical quads and the other 3 are locked in the attic and only given food when they have completed a model - hohohohho - now i am in BIG trouble
You don't think I give them food do you!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on February 16, 2022, 08:19:37 PM
I think he is identical quads and the other 3 are locked in the attic and only given food when they have completed a model - hohohohho - now i am in BIG trouble
You don't think I give them food do you!

A bread bun can be made to go a long way in Bempton!
Bigkev 
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 17, 2022, 07:10:19 AM
I think he is identical quads and the other 3 are locked in the attic and only given food when they have completed a model - hohohohho - now i am in BIG trouble
You don't think I give them food do you!

A bread bun can be made to go a long way in Bempton!
Bigkev

Bread bun - absolute luxury. 3 stone of monkey nuts.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 17, 2022, 07:36:13 AM
Bottom wing and tail plane attached.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on February 17, 2022, 01:45:54 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 17, 2022, 02:18:02 PM
Top wing now fitted, quite a balancing act and a lot of choice words!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on February 17, 2022, 08:25:08 PM
Top wing now fitted, quite a balancing act and a lot of choice words!

You mean words like 'oh dear', 'it will fit now', 'that shouldn't happen' I presume.....?
No moderation required.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 18, 2022, 05:36:47 PM
Decals - Transfers applied.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 19, 2022, 11:11:46 AM
Rigging started.
The real thing is here.
http://www.britmodeller.com/walkarounds/aircraft/pt17/st%2005.jpg
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on February 19, 2022, 03:14:13 PM
Shiny innit.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 19, 2022, 03:17:43 PM
Shiny innit.
Look at the link for the museum one, it is really shiny!
Here we are rigged eventually, not quite so shiny now I think?


A flight of Boeing Stearman aircraft of different scales?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on February 19, 2022, 04:51:32 PM
A lovely looking model Zak.
How you manage to rig that in record time is beyond me!
Very good modelling skills evident.
Have a house point!!
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on February 20, 2022, 11:51:57 AM
Stearmans on parade, excellent work. I fancied making a Wallace but after seeing your great work I think I'll stick to Luft46!!!!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on February 20, 2022, 02:37:49 PM
Very nice models Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on February 20, 2022, 04:45:39 PM
Another excellent model Zak - if it is going into the garage - is your garage called the Tardis ?   ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on February 20, 2022, 05:43:15 PM
His garage is bigger than our cottage!!!!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 25, 2022, 08:07:55 AM
I am selling some of my built models to make space.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 25, 2022, 08:17:24 AM
Now I am onto the 1:32 Special Hobby Morane-Saulnier Type N.
This includes resin and etched brass parts.
This was designed as a racer and sports aircraft and was test flown in May 1914.
The machine gun was not synchronised with the propeller snf two deflector plates were mounted on the prop.
Due to difficult piloting, they were not popular.
Wing warping was the method used.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on February 27, 2022, 07:29:20 AM
Resin and etched brass engine painted and in place, machine gun , undercarriage and struts added.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on February 27, 2022, 02:49:57 PM
A good beginning.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on February 27, 2022, 06:59:51 PM
Hi Zak,
Nice work on this one, progressing faster than the aeroplane flew...!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 01, 2022, 07:45:56 AM
Ready for adding the transfers.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 01, 2022, 03:05:57 PM
It was all going so well.
The decals broke up in the warm water, I managed to save two for the upper wing.
The ones on the tails are in several pieces.
The other have simply gone too far.

The joys of modelling older kits.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 01, 2022, 06:20:56 PM
Hi Zak,
If you let me know what you need to replace the damaged decals, I'll have a look in my spare decals  and if I have anything decal wise to help out I'm happy to donate.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 02, 2022, 07:47:18 AM
Thanks Kevin.
I may leave off the bottom roundels and paint the stripes along the fuselage.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on March 02, 2022, 08:27:51 AM
The joys of decals/transfers/stickers - it still looks good.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 02, 2022, 10:13:35 AM
Hi Zak,
If you let me know what you need to replace the damaged decals, I'll have a look in my spare decals  and if I have anything decal wise to help out I'm happy to donate.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Thanks Kevin, I will take up your offer, French WW1 roundels, 47mm diameter.


I managed to get the top ones on and the tail.
The stripe is being hand painted.
I cannot rig until I either get some decals or just leave them off!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 02, 2022, 10:57:00 AM
All this has lead me to the conclusion that perhaps it would always be best to scan decals before using them, just in case.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 02, 2022, 02:08:14 PM
All this has lead me to the conclusion that perhaps it would always be best to scan decals before using them, just in case.
This is now what I do Dave.
You've made a fine job of the aircraft so far. Magic.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 03, 2022, 08:48:33 AM
Onwards and upwards.
This is the 1/72 Airfix Bristol Bulldog, awaiting a final coat of varnish.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 03, 2022, 03:57:49 PM
Rigging.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 03, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
Hi Zak,
That looks nice.
I have a fondness for the Airfix Bulldog. I won my first model competition with one when I was about 16, (roughly 10 years ago....Joking)
Did you know the kit prop rotates the wrong way?, a moulding error by Airfix. But nevertheless can be made into a nice example as yours shows.
Like the rigging, much better than my early attempts.
What's next with two pairs of wings???
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 03, 2022, 08:54:05 PM
Probably a Matchbox Siskin or something Japanese.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 04, 2022, 01:20:26 PM
Yes I made one of these many many years ago. Not a patch on yours Dave with the rigging. The rigging finishes it off.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 04, 2022, 01:43:42 PM
Thanks Chris.
The next will be a 1:72 Nakajima KO-4, really a Nieuport and was built in Japan under licence.
The fitting of the top wing has been a trial, the struts are very this and were of differing lengths,
Some rod and filler had to be used to extend them. The ones around the cockpit do not quite fit, but it was the best I could do.
Here it is after decaling.
It has lain in a box for a while waiting for things to harden up.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 05, 2022, 01:24:13 PM
Rigging, for some reason this has been a real trial, usually it poses the odd problem, but today everything was going wrong.
Consequently I decided not to double the flying wires.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 05, 2022, 03:30:44 PM
Rigging, for some reason this has been a real trial, usually it poses the odd problem, but today everything was going wrong.
Consequently I decided not to double the flying wires.
You could try again tomorrow!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 05, 2022, 04:05:43 PM
Rigging, for some reason this has been a real trial, usually it poses the odd problem, but today everything was going wrong.
Consequently I decided not to double the flying wires.
You could try again tomorrow!
I will.
Do you think humidity/temperature is a factor, superglue setting time and so on?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 05, 2022, 04:38:43 PM
Rigging, for some reason this has been a real trial, usually it poses the odd problem, but today everything was going wrong.
Consequently I decided not to double the flying wires.
You could try again tomorrow!
I will.
Do you think humidity/temperature is a factor, superglue setting time and so on?
Could be. I sometimes have all sorts of problems with the stuff, I don't really know why,
I just persevere.
Nautical language helps.
Haddock.


Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 06, 2022, 02:14:33 PM
Much better today, but not as wet and warmer.
Here is the Nakajima finished and given a matt varnish.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 06, 2022, 02:16:13 PM
This is a 1/72 Matchbox Armstrong Whitworth Siskin. For their age these are nice kits to put together, I don't know about the accuracy.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 06, 2022, 03:37:11 PM
Are you on steroids or something Dave? I miss a couple of days and you've made a whole squadron! Impressive modelling though!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on March 07, 2022, 12:34:33 PM
Not steroids Chris just his normal speed - and quality to boot
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 11, 2022, 09:07:41 AM
1:72 Matchbox Hawker Fury,
Another nice little kit.
Rigged with the Inifinti stuff.
The last photo is just for Haddock - it used to be something of a little joke between us - I hope he remembers.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 11, 2022, 10:22:22 AM
Flying wires should be double and landing wires single?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 11, 2022, 10:27:56 AM
Flying wires should be double and landing wires single?
We used to joke about it at one time.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 11, 2022, 01:59:15 PM
Excellent models Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on March 11, 2022, 02:43:53 PM
So I go AWOL for a few days and FOUR come off the production line and fantastic to boot. Great builds.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 11, 2022, 03:04:53 PM
Thanks Chris.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 12, 2022, 07:23:02 AM
I eventually got this finished.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 12, 2022, 07:48:41 AM
Nice.
 The deflectors on the prop blades look a bit ferociuos.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 12, 2022, 01:54:33 PM
Nice work Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on March 12, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
Great finish.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 12, 2022, 05:05:37 PM
Lovely work.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 13, 2022, 10:03:15 AM
Next its onto this one from Avis. This is in 1:72 scale and is a Bristol Type 72 Racer designed by Wilfred Thomas Reid and built by The Bristol Aeroplane Company at Filton.
One aircraft was built in 1922 and made its maiden flight in July 1922, Piloted by Cyril Unwins.

Cyril Frank Uwins OBE, AFC, FRAeS (1896–1972) was a British test pilot who worked for Bristol Aeroplane Company, where he made the first flight of 58 types of aircraft. On 16 September 1932 he broke the world aeroplane height record by climbing to 43,976 ft (13,404 m) (nearly 8+1⁄2 miles). He eventually became the Deputy Chairman of Bristol Aircraft. He was also Chairman of the Society of British Aircraft Manufacturer between 1956 and 1958, and he was awarded the Royal Aeronautical Society silver medal for aeronautics. If you want to know more Google him!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 13, 2022, 02:51:37 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 13, 2022, 05:26:17 PM
That's some heck of a dihedral looking at the artwork.
But a very different looking aeroplane.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 15, 2022, 11:19:22 AM
That's some heck of a dihedral looking at the artwork.
But a very different looking aeroplane.
Bigkev
Does this help?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 16, 2022, 07:43:42 AM
Progress.

More information.
The undercarriage could be raised by using a hand crank.
It was not very successful and made only 7 fights and was scrapped in 1924.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 16, 2022, 08:22:32 PM
Looks very ungainly Zak.
Like a plane that's overdosed on junk food.
Hand cranking an undercarriage........Yikes.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 17, 2022, 07:52:58 AM
Looks very ungainly Zak.
Like a plane that's overdosed on junk food.
Hand cranking an undercarriage........Yikes.
Bigkev
Apparently, rugby ball shaped to go through the air better?
It is very ungainly when posed next to other aircraft, it must have been hard to get into.
Talking of which there is a new series of Secrets of the Transport Museum on at the moment. They had a Camel on and it looked really difficult to get into.
Here it is rigged and finished.
A comparison with another monoplane.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 17, 2022, 02:32:01 PM
It doesn't look as if it has enough wing area to fly.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 22, 2022, 07:24:33 AM
I started this on the Modelling Day.
It is the Monogram Goshawk and kit dates from 1968.
It is really nice considering its age.
Unfortunately the struts had broken off and were missing. I am in the process of fabricating some new one. This was from The Don Pryde Collection.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 22, 2022, 11:12:19 AM
Looks good.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 23, 2022, 09:52:42 AM
I have just undercoated the Goshawk.
I started this Pegasus Curtis Sparrowhawk a while ago.
Pegasus biplane kits are very basic, no struts.
I forgot to take a picture of this before the build, but here is one of their Roland Kits, see what you get.The last photo is the Sparrowhawk being worked on.
The struts and arrester hook were scratch built.
They were used from Airships and as the hook was so reliable many had their undercarriage removed.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 23, 2022, 02:27:25 PM
That's different.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 23, 2022, 02:29:08 PM
I will have to set the Sparrowhawk aside, even after two coats of decal film the transfers still broke up.
I forgot to scan them, I will now need to source some more.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on March 23, 2022, 04:55:33 PM
Are you building a dirigible to put it under?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 23, 2022, 05:45:26 PM
Are you building a dirigible to put it under?
I don't think so, but now you have put the idea there?
No, definitely not!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 23, 2022, 06:10:43 PM
Are you building a dirigible to put it under?

Hi Chris,
if Zak was to build the two carrier Airships ( Macon and Akron) he would need to buy next door to fit them in.
They were both rigid airships not dirigible.
Perhaps photos of the two airships displayed with the Sparrowhawk is more feasible.
Bigkev
 
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 24, 2022, 07:29:33 AM
Thanks Kevin, useful information.
A bit more detail:
Akron and Macon were designed as airborne aircraft carriers, which could launch and recover heavier-than-air planes for use in both reconnaissance and self-defence.
The ships were equipped with hangars, approximately 75′ long x 60′ wide x 16′ high, which could stow and service up to five aircraft in flight. Aircraft were launched and retrieved by means of a trapeze, and could enter and exit the hangar though a large T-shaped opening at the bottom of the hull.
The capacity to embark and deploy fixed-wing aircraft was the essential element of Akron and Macon’s ability to serve as naval scouts. Airplanes greatly increased the range and area over which the airship could search for the enemy, but also addressed the airship’s own inherent weakness; its vulnerability to attack. The giant airships made large, slow targets which were highly vulnerable to destruction by an enemy’s planes.
Although the Navy originally envisioned the airships as scouting vessels which carried airplanes for fighter defence, over time the Navy eventually realized that the vulnerable airship itself was best employed in the background, out of sight of the enemy; the airship’s function would be to carry scouting planes within range of the enemy. As naval airship doctrine eventually developed, rather than the airplane extending the scouting range of the airship, it was the airship which extended the scouting range of the airplane.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 24, 2022, 07:36:05 PM
Very interesting Zak.
I knew that they were intended as carriers for the the Sparrow hawk's but not the hangar sizes mentioned. Thanks for the info.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 24, 2022, 08:01:43 PM
Very intersting indeed. I never knew of this use of an airship. Incedible to say the least.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 25, 2022, 06:09:35 AM
You have to admire the ingenuity of the engineers but even more so, the courage of the aircrew
who were expected to fly these things.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 25, 2022, 01:02:20 PM
Goshawk just about complete.
Just a couple of bits to paint and then a coat of varnish.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 25, 2022, 01:46:06 PM
An excellent model Dave. The backdrop adds to the photos  - must try that.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 25, 2022, 02:55:24 PM
An excellent model Dave. The backdrop adds to the photos  - must try that.
I saw what Kevin had done and thought the same.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 25, 2022, 02:59:47 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on March 26, 2022, 09:10:56 AM
Great idea will steal that - hohohho
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 27, 2022, 04:05:29 PM
On the Modelling Day, as well as the Goshawk, I also had this 1:72 Roden Felixstowe F.2A with me.
Howard took an interest in this and the different colour schemes, so this is all his fault.
The scheme is a mixture of masking and using red painted decal paper and luck.
This is it so far.
Fitting the wing will have to be done in a different way then in the instructions, it would have been impossible to paint once the wings were on. I have already added some internal bracing inside the fuselage in preparation for this.
Progress so far, some touching up may be needed.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 27, 2022, 07:49:04 PM
Hi Zak,
Well that is a Bobby Dazzler!
The stripes and chequers look really good. This build will be a real challenge, as I have seen pictures of the wings and they look very long and fragile.
Good luck, I will watch with great interest how this one progresses.
Very nice so far.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bob C on March 27, 2022, 07:52:51 PM
It will look great when finished. Good on Howard.

Bob c
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 28, 2022, 08:30:20 AM
Impressive, my eyes would be doing a dance by now.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on March 28, 2022, 09:30:23 AM
I would have flown it into the bin by now - but you will end up with another excellent model, well done Zak in anticipation.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 28, 2022, 03:14:44 PM
Very impressive Dave. You'll be able to blame Howard if anything goes wrong .
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 28, 2022, 03:50:42 PM
The wings are very flimsy and so thin that pinning is almost impossible.
The large aluminium plate was courtesy of Haddock - very useful, thanks Tony.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 28, 2022, 04:04:50 PM
Pleased to see it being put to good use.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 30, 2022, 10:13:33 AM
Meanwhile, while I deal with the wings.
Here is a 1/32 Hasegawa/Hales Boeing P-12E just being rigged, almost finished.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 30, 2022, 01:30:05 PM
Excellent Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 31, 2022, 09:20:07 AM
Wings installed last night and left to set.

Rigging the rear tail plane.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 31, 2022, 10:51:46 AM
Winging it.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 31, 2022, 11:28:03 AM
Delicate looking assembly.
You will need steady hands with this one.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 31, 2022, 01:06:03 PM
Wow. That's looking good. Don't knock it.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 31, 2022, 01:18:18 PM
Don't even breathe......
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 31, 2022, 01:43:58 PM
I did get the top wing on, much nautical language and lots of fiddling.
Here it all is left to dry for a day.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on March 31, 2022, 02:28:03 PM
Looking exquisite.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on March 31, 2022, 02:32:40 PM
Looking exquisite.
it is a bit fragile though!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on March 31, 2022, 04:20:14 PM
Looking good, I seem to remember having fun getting the engines to fit on the Curtis H16
which I think is basically the same kit. Love the paintjob.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on March 31, 2022, 07:47:36 PM
Looking exquisite.
it is a bit fragile though!

Is that you or the kit....?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 01, 2022, 07:03:56 AM
Looking exquisite.
it is a bit fragile though!

Is that you or the kit....?
Both!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 01, 2022, 11:13:55 AM
The top wing has come off while installing the engines, two steps forward and about 17 backwards.
Used solvent and left it to dry overnight.
Scratch head and try again.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 01, 2022, 11:45:29 AM
Hi Zak,
The joys of modelling!!
Good luck.
Cheers
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on April 01, 2022, 12:05:32 PM
Good luck Zak - if it was mine, a deep breath from me and it would be in 85 bits, so you are doing well to only have the small amount of damage
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 01, 2022, 12:30:24 PM
Attempt number 2.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 01, 2022, 12:52:43 PM
It still looks rather fragile.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 02, 2022, 01:40:38 PM
Engines in and progress amidst the chaos of my work table.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 02, 2022, 06:02:10 PM
Still battling away, but getting there. Keep at it.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 03, 2022, 07:23:17 AM
Busy rigging at the moment.
Photos later.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 03, 2022, 07:56:39 AM
Having studied rigging diagrams and photos of completed models in this scale, it seems most people do not double rig the wires as they should be, they opt for a single wire, I am going to chicken out and do the same.
Here it is so far.
Off for a lie down now!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 03, 2022, 10:02:25 AM
Probably a very wise move. You have been busy with the rigging, it looks really good and the lack of double wires is not noticeable at all.
I think that you are a very wise chicken.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 03, 2022, 11:12:36 AM
Probably a very wise move. You have been busy with the rigging, it looks really good and the lack of double wires is not noticeable at all.
I think that you are a very wise chicken.
Bigkev
Cluck, cluck!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 03, 2022, 02:26:47 PM
The rigging looks excellent Dave. A magnificent model.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 03, 2022, 03:10:51 PM
The rigging looks excellent Dave. A magnificent model.
Thanks Chris, it is driving me to distraction though!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on April 04, 2022, 07:59:24 AM
Having studied rigging diagrams and photos of completed models in this scale, it seems most people do not double rig the wires as they should be, they opt for a single wire, I am going to chicken out and do the same.
Here it is so far.
Off for a lie down now!
I seem to think that the wires were'nt double on the real thing.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 04, 2022, 08:12:54 AM
Have a look at this.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 04, 2022, 02:00:46 PM
Once again, I am having real deal trouble.
They had three coats of decal film and still broke up.
Once again I will have to attempt to get some from somewhere.
It must be me, or the old kits?

Disaster!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on April 04, 2022, 03:06:40 PM
How could it be you Zak, a man of your quality. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bob C on April 04, 2022, 07:10:58 PM
You've got the rigging cracked, it all looks good so far.

Bob c
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 04, 2022, 08:32:39 PM
Fully agree,
That rigging stood no chance against Zak.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 05, 2022, 01:17:03 PM
Once again, I am having real deal trouble.
They had three coats of decal film and still broke up.
Once again I will have to attempt to get some from somewhere.
It must be me, or the old kits?

Disaster!
It's the old decals me thinks.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 06, 2022, 12:32:02 PM
This is it, I am declaring that it is finished.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 06, 2022, 12:42:20 PM
Meanwhile, here is a 1:144 Valom Sopwith Camel.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 06, 2022, 05:36:40 PM
Now onto an Eduard 1:48 Albatros D,III - weekend edition.
Working on the interior.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 06, 2022, 08:12:58 PM
This is it, I am declaring that it is finished.

Can I say that I declare that as Fabulous....!!
Excellent work.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 06, 2022, 08:15:04 PM
Meanwhile, here is a 1:144 Valom Sopwith Camel.

Small and Exquisite.
Even some rigging too.
What about a coin alongside it to show its true small size.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 06, 2022, 08:17:22 PM
Now onto an Eduard 1:48 Albatros D,III - weekend edition.
Working on the interior.

Have you moved to the land of the midnight sun??
You never seem to sleep in between projects.
Suppose this will be finished by the weekend.........
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on April 07, 2022, 07:34:06 AM
This is it, I am declaring that it is finished.
That looks splendid.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 07, 2022, 07:41:56 AM
Thanks for the comments.
Sorry Kevin, sleep is often difficult I must admit.
It is a need to keep busy I suppose.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 07, 2022, 07:52:19 AM
Meanwhile, here is a 1:144 Valom Sopwith Camel.

Small and Exquisite.
Even some rigging too.
What about a coin alongside it to show its true small size.
Bigkev
Especially for Kevin.
One rigged, one un-rigged.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 07, 2022, 11:36:32 AM
Thanks Zak,
Good to tell you are the treasurer, using the smallest denomination.......... Ho, ho, ho
Cheers
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 07, 2022, 01:32:15 PM
Amazing models Dave. Expect to see the Felixstowe next week at the club meeting.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 07, 2022, 01:36:11 PM
Tony just remined me to install the windshields, here they are.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 07, 2022, 02:06:53 PM
Excellent detail.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 08, 2022, 10:20:36 AM
Back to the Albatros.
I had intended to use wooden patterned decal sheet for the sides.
There was some in the DP collection, once again the fell apart.
So I painted the wooden sides.

This Albatros was a kit that I got from Howard some time ago.
I did pre-shade the panel lines.
Painting was with a basic under colour - dark yellow and the dry brushed with various darker colours.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 08, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Wood effect is good.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 08, 2022, 08:33:16 PM
I agree, a great effect with your method.
Might have to crib that method.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 09, 2022, 01:45:41 PM
I agree, a great effect with your method.
Might have to crib that method.
Bigkev
How's it done Dave?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 09, 2022, 03:13:39 PM
First a coat of primer then a coat of Tamiya desert yellow. Allow to dry,
Drybrush with a brush with stiff bristles, streaking each panel. Several different colours were used ranging from darkish brown to lighter brown and a wash with a Vallejo mahogany once dry.
The whole lot was varnished and the panel lines had some darker colour run into then.
Finally more varnish.
It was trail and error really that just happened to work ok.
I hope that helps.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 10, 2022, 10:57:49 AM
The progress continues, top wing fitting.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 10, 2022, 02:02:14 PM
First a coat of primer then a coat of Tamiya desert yellow. Allow to dry,
Drybrush with a brush with stiff bristles, streaking each panel. Several different colours were used ranging from darkish brown to lighter brown and a wash with a Vallejo mahogany once dry.
The whole lot was varnished and the panel lines had some darker colour run into then.
Finally more varnish.
It was trail and error really that just happened to work ok.
I hope that helps.
Yes that's very informative. Thanks.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 10, 2022, 02:19:28 PM
Doing a bit of research proves to be a minefield, ignorance would have been bliss.
I have plans from two different sources,  one shows the radiator offset and one with it in the middle of the upper wing. Who knows, well they were built in different factories, so maybe there would be some differences.
A confused modeller.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on April 11, 2022, 08:58:19 AM
How many bi-planes have you built while I have been away  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 11, 2022, 10:34:32 AM
How many bi-planes have you built while I have been away  :o :o :o
Wouldn't you like to know.

Not many, I have just got a rigged machine with local interest, but I must finish the Albatros.

I also came across an Albatros painted completely in white and used by ZAK for travel between factories.
ZAK = Zantral Abnahme Kommission (the inspection and approval branch of  Air Force).
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 11, 2022, 06:27:19 PM
Decals applied.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 12, 2022, 01:38:04 PM
Rigging next, I have so far found three different rigging diagrams for this aircraft? I will make a best guess.
The old eyes seem to struggle nowadays.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 12, 2022, 03:07:10 PM
Rigged, after a fashion.
Still needs a coat of varnish and a windshield adding.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 12, 2022, 03:26:08 PM
Another Winner from Zak.
Nicely done.
Will it be making a guest appearance at the club meeting..?
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 12, 2022, 05:32:59 PM
Another Winner from Zak.
Nicely done.
Will it be making a guest appearance at the club meeting..?
Bigkev
Not tomorrow, other things from earlier first.
I need to get it varnished as well.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 12, 2022, 06:17:31 PM
Another Winner from Zak.
Nicely done.
Will it be making a guest appearance at the club meeting..?
Bigkev
Not tomorrow, other things from earlier first.
I need to get it varnished as well.

Never mind, it'll be worth waiting for....!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 13, 2022, 01:04:18 PM
I think the next build will be one from the Don Pryde Collection.
This is an Eduard 1:48 Siemens Schuckert DIII.
There was a receipt in the box from1994 priced at £10.99.
I hope the decals are ok, they are lozenge camouflage.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 13, 2022, 02:40:21 PM
The Albatross looks very nice.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 14, 2022, 02:13:27 PM
Lots of filler required on this one!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 14, 2022, 04:02:50 PM
The whole of the cockpit is etched brass!

A lot of folding on the main piece.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 14, 2022, 07:58:13 PM
Hi Zak,
Have you thought about a 'Tag Team' with Haddock on this one......
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on April 15, 2022, 12:32:08 PM
You are a VERY EVIL PERSON KEVIN - now I have the image of them in trunks in a wrestling ring in my head  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 15, 2022, 12:51:17 PM
You are a VERY EVIL PERSON KEVIN - now I have the image of them in trunks in a wrestling ring in my head  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I need a lie down, that is not a pleasant thought.
Shades of Kendo Nagasaki and Bid Daddy, Giant Haystacks and the evil Mick McManus?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 15, 2022, 02:32:50 PM
You are a VERY EVIL PERSON KEVIN - now I have the image of them in trunks in a wrestling ring in my head  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I need a lie down, that is not a pleasant thought.
Shades of Kendo Nagasaki and Bid Daddy, Giant Haystacks and the evil Mick McManus?
Not a good image indeed.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 15, 2022, 02:45:58 PM
 Oh well.
Never mind....
I did meet cry baby Jimmy breaks once when on holiday. He looked just like us, a few pounds extra but still a glint in his eye.
Still hoping for a Zak and Haddock tag team though...
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 16, 2022, 11:26:15 AM
As well as the Eduard  1:48 Siemens Schuckert DIII, I am also working on another Eduard Albatros, this one will be in all white as in service with ZAK - see earlier for details.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 16, 2022, 12:06:16 PM
In between these I have been working on a couple of 1:72 Aircraft.
These are both Fokker E.V's one from Aeroclub and the other Arma Hobby, junior set.
The Aeroclub is in Polish markings. We used to have a chairman and he modelled almost exclusively the Polish Air Force).
I know it seems I build a lot, but as I keep putting a model aside for glue and paint to dry, I set to with another one.
Sometimes I may have 4 or 5 on the go at once.
There is still some painting to do on these.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 16, 2022, 02:07:23 PM
Wow. The airforce increases by the day. Looking good Dave. The white albatross looks interesting.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 16, 2022, 03:35:30 PM
Here we are the two Fokkers are complete.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 16, 2022, 03:43:06 PM
Meanwhile, I came across this kit and it rekindled memories of being an Officer in the CCF at Bridlington School.
The school had a glider -  I use the term loosely, as the one we had had baffles on top of the wings to prevent take off, it just hopped along. I seem to remember a nasty accident and it was taken out of use.
Haddock remembers two of them when he was a pupil at the school.
This model is a Special Hobby 1:48 scale EoN Eton TX.1 SG.38.
These were built under licence all over.
The Bridlington one was a Slingsby (based in Kirkbymoorside) and may have been a T.38 Grasshopper.
Here is a photo of the glider in use at school - the pilot went on to teach at Bridlington School and still lives in Flamborough.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 17, 2022, 01:41:25 PM
An interesting model and story. When was it at Brid  school?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 17, 2022, 02:42:32 PM
An interesting model and story. When was it at Brid  school?
From the 50's to the 80's, as far as I know, it may still be there somewhere. It was there from 1976 -80. They used to have all sorts of stuff for CCF use. Cutters, boats, machine guns, 0.303's. a rifle range, at one time various vehicles as well.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on April 18, 2022, 08:15:13 AM
All it needs now is an army of "volounteers" to pull on the bungee lines.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 19, 2022, 08:07:46 AM
ZAK Albatros in 1:48 scale
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on April 19, 2022, 08:45:47 AM
I have lost count, how many bi-planes have you made now - I ran out of numbers after 10 but took my socks off and got to 20  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 19, 2022, 09:33:20 AM
I have lost count, how many bi-planes have you made now - I ran out of numbers after 10 but took my socks off and got to 20  ::) ::) ::)
Counting those built previously I probably have between 60 and 70 built.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 19, 2022, 10:10:16 AM
Slow progress on the Siemens Schuckert DIII applying the lozenge camouflage to upper and lower wing surfaces and then rib tapes.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 19, 2022, 10:49:05 AM
Slow progress on the Siemens Schuckert DIII applying the lozenge camouflage to upper and lower wing surfaces and then rib tapes.

Hi Zak,
You may think you're going slow and steady, but you're like a racehorse compared to the rest of us.
Nice, if painstaking work.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 19, 2022, 01:00:26 PM
Models looking good Dave. I agree with Kevin  - the rest of us are snail-bound.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 24, 2022, 10:28:42 AM
At present I have a Sopwith Pup on the go, it will be one that was locally based.
B2218 was based at Owthorne (Withernsea) part of No 251 Squadron RAF in 1918.
C288 was based at Beverley with No36 training Squadron.
Decaling in progress.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 24, 2022, 01:13:09 PM
Speedy.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 24, 2022, 02:15:45 PM
The progress of the Siemens Schuckert DIII has been slow, I can only describe this kit as a challenge.
Here it is to date. Decals and seatbelts still required, weathering and wheels, and then rigging.
Remind me not to tackle old kits, nearly 40 years old.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on April 24, 2022, 02:27:06 PM
Ah but, taking on 'Classic Plastic' is what turns us into modellers not just kit builders. Oh I forgot you're in that category already, lol!!!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 24, 2022, 05:45:59 PM
Ah but, taking on 'Classic Plastic' is what turns us into modellers not just kit builders. Oh I forgot you're in that category already, lol!!!
Thanks Chris, maybe I wish I wasn't!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 25, 2022, 02:24:01 PM
Looks good though Dave. You're an inspiration to us all.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 26, 2022, 09:33:58 AM
A well worn and used Sopwith Pup based in the East Riding of Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on April 26, 2022, 10:16:04 AM
Another excellent model for your airforce - how many now - or have you not got that many fingers and toes  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 26, 2022, 11:05:07 AM
Another excellent model for your airforce - how many now - or have you not got that many fingers and toes  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Probably too many!

Here is the Siemens Schuckert DIII as finished as it will ever be.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 26, 2022, 02:40:21 PM
Excellent models.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 28, 2022, 07:48:01 AM
Now it's onto a Sopwith Dolphin in 1/72 scale, mine will be finished as one from Eastburn/Driffield No.2 School of Aerial Flying - C3854
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on April 28, 2022, 09:18:42 AM
Another masterpiece in the making
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 28, 2022, 10:57:02 AM
Delightful!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on April 28, 2022, 01:32:16 PM
Another masterpiece in the making
Probably finished already.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 28, 2022, 03:13:41 PM
Another masterpiece in the making
Probably finished already.
Not quite, but it is primed and ready to go.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on April 28, 2022, 04:16:49 PM
I seem to remember LO! being on the side of Fokker D.VII. I have a picture 'somewhere'!!! Looking forward to seeing the Dolphin progress.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on April 28, 2022, 06:26:02 PM
Always amazed at your speed and quality of build.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on April 29, 2022, 10:28:40 AM
Primed.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 01, 2022, 01:03:33 PM
Top wing now attached to the Dolphin.

A pair of East riding Pups.
C288 from No36 Training Sq, Beverley and B2218 as shown earlier.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 01, 2022, 03:16:39 PM
Exquisite models.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on May 02, 2022, 08:22:50 AM
Impressive rigging. I still haven't plucked up the courage to take it on.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 02, 2022, 11:12:42 AM
No courage needed just get on with it!

A coat of gloss varnish and ready for decals.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 02, 2022, 06:28:16 PM
No courage needed just get on with it!
Yes but look at what you end up with and think what it would look like if I had made it  :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 02, 2022, 06:41:06 PM
No courage needed just get on with it!
Yes but look at what you end up with and think what it would look like if I had made it  :( :( :( :( :(

Knowing you Msea, it would be a good attempt.
However it wouldn't be 'Ship-Shape' for you.........
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 03, 2022, 05:34:25 PM
Decals applied.
That 4 is out of line, some remedial work required!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 04, 2022, 08:39:06 AM
I was given two Airfix 1:72 Sopwith Camels, the kits are not very nice and the parts seem very clunky.
Some do not look right.
I am going to build one straight out of the box and use the spares box to try to improve the other.
The one on the left is straight out of the box.
Airfix only supply one machine gun, but the painting guide shows two?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 04, 2022, 09:34:32 AM
Will enjoy seeing the difference in the 2 when they are both finished.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 04, 2022, 03:07:31 PM
Should be a good comparison.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 04, 2022, 05:45:05 PM
1/72 Sopwith Dolphin rigged - matt varnish next.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 04, 2022, 06:43:34 PM
Hi Zak,
The Camel did have two guns in its 'hump' so how Airfix got only one is rather strange, but it was tooled about 60 years ago.......
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 04, 2022, 08:27:55 PM
You're cracking on with these Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 05, 2022, 07:32:19 AM
Hi Zak,
The Camel did have two guns in its 'hump' so how Airfix got only one is rather strange, but it was tooled about 60 years ago.......
Bigkev
Thanks Kevin.
There was a variant with one offset machine gun I believe. Maybe a 2F1, but Airfix makes no reference to where the machine gun should be placed.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 06, 2022, 01:55:20 PM
Tope wing on, both using the kit struts, it is amazing how different the same kit looks, I think the bottom wing was warped on one.
It certainly is a 60 year old kit!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 09, 2022, 09:58:43 AM
Decals on, rigging next.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 09, 2022, 01:34:26 PM
Rigged!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 09, 2022, 01:36:10 PM
Nicely finished.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 09, 2022, 07:23:55 PM
Super result!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 12, 2022, 08:56:06 AM
This is the 1:48 Gavia Bristol Scout C from 1915.
The Establishment seemed not to like monoplanes and banned them, this followed on from the A and B, 161 of the C were built and were used by the RFC and RNAS.
This is fitted with a non synchronised Lewis machine gun.

Painted, rigged, awaiting a touch up of the horns and a final coat of varnish.

I find bleached linen a difficult colour to pin down, sources refer to lots of different shades, this was my own mix of colours. I feel it should maybe be a bit brighter?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 12, 2022, 02:01:54 PM
That is about it.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 12, 2022, 07:37:49 PM
Nice model. Good background.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 12, 2022, 07:50:21 PM
All ship shape and Bristol fashion.
Nice.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on May 13, 2022, 07:02:23 AM
Nice Bristol.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 13, 2022, 11:06:26 AM
Now this is the Airco DH5 under construction.The staggered back wing was an attempt to give the pilot a good forward view. This is a 1:48 AMG kit and has plenty of etched brass and a metal engine. This aircraft had a shorth lifespan at the front and was soon replaced by the S.E.5a.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 13, 2022, 12:48:15 PM
Looks like it had a short wingspan too!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 17, 2022, 01:15:52 PM
It certainly looks 'dumpy' or is that the photo?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 17, 2022, 02:37:14 PM
It certainly looks 'dumpy' or is that the photo?
It may be the photo, but it does have a large body.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 17, 2022, 02:54:04 PM
Decals applied.
The stitching was decals too.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 17, 2022, 06:58:54 PM
Very unusual.
Didn't know of this one.
How did the stitching decals work?, because they look really good.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 18, 2022, 07:10:47 AM
I have yet to apply some varnish over them, I am not convinced yet.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 18, 2022, 02:24:45 PM
Looks good though Dave.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 19, 2022, 08:06:57 AM
None of the rigging diagrams show cross bracing on the struts supporting the upper wing. But this video shows that they were braced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtu37mPiRgI

Back to the model, more work to be done!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 19, 2022, 08:11:21 AM
I am quite pleased with the way the stitching looks.
Now I need to add the cross bracing.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 19, 2022, 02:11:54 PM
Cross bracing added, some shading and a coat of matt varnish.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Haddock on May 19, 2022, 04:18:20 PM
Looks good. I think you're becoming addicted to this rigging lark.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 19, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
Looks good. I think you're becoming addicted to this rigging lark.
Haddock.
You may be right.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 19, 2022, 06:44:55 PM
Now, I really like that Zak.
Biplanes seem to suit you.
Have you another one 'rigged' up and ready to go......!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 20, 2022, 01:14:05 PM
Now, I really like that Zak.
Biplanes seem to suit you.
Have you another one 'rigged' up and ready to go......!
Bigkev
Yes, the old SMER SE5a and some 1/72nd ones as well.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 20, 2022, 05:49:41 PM
Looking very nice Dave. So more biplanes to model.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 20, 2022, 06:13:25 PM
Looking very nice Dave. So more biplanes to model.
Yes, here is the very old SMER model.
Notice the tidy modelling area!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 21, 2022, 02:16:47 PM
More on the SE5
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 21, 2022, 04:36:06 PM
You call that TIDY - hohohohhohoho
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 22, 2022, 12:33:54 PM
What scale are they or did I miss it?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 22, 2022, 01:08:28 PM
What scale are they or did I miss it?
These are 1:48, the SE5, Airco DH5 and the Bristol Scout.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 22, 2022, 01:26:16 PM
What scale are they or did I miss it?
These are 1:48, the SE5, Airco DH5 and the Bristol Scout.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: cph64 on May 23, 2022, 12:40:30 PM
That looks a lot like my work desk at the moment as we've been swapping bedrooms around (Tracy's idea not mine!!!).
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 24, 2022, 10:15:19 AM
My work area always looks like that!
Here is the SE5.a still needs a windscreen.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 24, 2022, 10:18:51 AM
I bought this 1:48 Monogram Camel on EBay and it had a lot of damage and broken parts.
The plastic is quite brittle.
The fuselage was broken and had a piece missing.
I filled this with two part epoxy filler and sculpted it to shape.

The top wing was in two, I simply glued this back together.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 24, 2022, 01:01:33 PM
The se5.a looks very nice. You must have used a few yards of the rigging material now in all your models?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 24, 2022, 01:26:06 PM
The se5.a looks very nice. You must have used a few yards of the rigging material now in all your models?
Mile - sorry Kilometres.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 25, 2022, 08:52:17 AM
Progress on the Camel, some refining and sculpting still needed.
The photos show the complete side and the remodelled side.

But what can that be in the background?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 25, 2022, 09:02:04 AM
Are you taking to the snow ?
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 25, 2022, 09:11:12 AM
Are you taking to the snow ?
Snow I'm not.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 25, 2022, 02:00:55 PM
Hi Zak,
Could that be the Smer Avro 504?
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 25, 2022, 02:35:08 PM
Hi Zak,
Could that be the Smer Avro 504?
Bigkev
Close, it is actually the Merit one originally priced at 3s/11d.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 25, 2022, 03:31:41 PM
Hi Zak,
Could that be the Smer Avro 504?
Bigkev
Close, it is actually the Merit one originally priced at 3s/11d.
That'll confuse the younsters!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 25, 2022, 05:31:47 PM
Hi Zak,
I suppose that I was right in the fact that the Smer kit is a rebox of the original Merit kit.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 25, 2022, 05:35:14 PM
Hi Zak,
I suppose that I was right in the fact that the Smer kit is a rebox of the original Merit kit.
Bigkev
True!
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 26, 2022, 03:17:07 PM
Too much ligt rain and mizzle for a visit to the allotment, so we went to the dentist. Then on with some modelling.
Avro 504 almost finished, a bit of touching in here and there maybe.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: Bigkev on May 26, 2022, 08:08:02 PM
Hi Zak,
That 'MERITS' a thumbs up, looks nice.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: zak on May 27, 2022, 07:36:19 AM
Hi Zak,
That 'MERITS' a thumbs up, looks nice.
Bigkev
Thanks Kevin.
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: MSea on May 27, 2022, 10:27:44 AM
Looking great alongside the rest of your air fleet
Title: Re: Biplanes and rigged aircraft
Post by: chriswil42 on May 28, 2022, 02:31:44 PM
Marvellous!