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Title: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on December 24, 2021, 01:02:01 PM
                       Started this a couple of weeks ago although it was waterlined at the same time as SMS Viribus Unitis.
            First a bit about the ship. She was built in Fiume unlike the first three in the clas that were built in Trieste, this was for political reasons.
      Probably because of the different ship-yard, the were visible differences between her and the other ships in the class.
                      No torpedoe nets were ever fitted.
                      A large searchlight plat form was fitted that extended from the wheelhous roof to the middle of the after funnel.
                     The bridge wings were omitted.
                      The funnels were noticeably taller.
                     There was a large ventilator trunk fitted aft in place of the smaller one fitted to the other ships in the class.

        And now to the kit.
                      Trumpeter have provided etche brass torpedoe net shelves which are replicated in the Eduard aftermarket set. All the bumps and
               holes neede to fit the net booms are there which will have to be removed.
                      The searchlight platform is in the kit in plastic, there is an etched brass support structure in etched brass.
                       No bridge wings.
                       The funnels are too short. I've include a couple of computer generated pictures created from original plans to show the
             differences. The first one is SMS Viribus Unitis, the second, SMS Szent Istvan.
                       The velntilator is included.
        The pictures probably speak for themselves.
Haddock.

   
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on December 24, 2021, 01:54:26 PM
So you have a few modifications to do to the model then Mr Haddock. We can check the differences when you display the models together.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on December 24, 2021, 04:29:18 PM
And so to the build.
          The bridge structure and the funnel casing are moulded seperately, I'm hoping to build this part of the superstructure
as one assembly so I've joined 'em together.
       The funnels have been lenghtened. Comparing the two computer generated pictures, 5mm seems about right,
in 1:350, 5mm =1.75m. (Thanks for the Balsa Zak.) 'Addock 'oles" added for the funnel stays.
       As usual, some of Trumpeter's brass is too long, I'm expecting it now so I check early in the build to avoid some
very strong nautical language. You can see the bits of micro-strip needed to accomodate the extra length.
       There's a latice frame work that represents support for the searchlight platform, Trumpy would have you twist
the gussets by 90 degrees then bend up to meet the framework, most of 'em just fell off so I removed 'em all and fixed
them seperately. 
        Dry itting shows that the various platforms need fettling to look level when assembled, the lower part of the mast is
too long so needs one of the locating spigots removed,  shortened by a suitable amount, then the spigot replaced, shims added where needed.
       A dry fit shows, hopefully, when all is glued together it should look passable, it looks a bit wonkey on the picture, time will tell.
          As usual, the pictures should speak for themselves.
Haddock.   
         



Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bob C on December 24, 2021, 07:28:08 PM
Some really good work.

Bob c
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on December 25, 2021, 01:52:54 PM
Your brasswork is second to none Mr Haddock. Exquisite!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on December 27, 2021, 05:21:47 PM
Superb as always.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: MSea on December 27, 2021, 08:54:50 PM
Brass work 10 out of 10 and a gold star as well - but we expect no less -  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on January 28, 2022, 04:14:23 PM
Just a few bits and bobs to add to the bridge and funnel are then it should be safe to fix the assembly in position.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on January 28, 2022, 05:42:43 PM
Impressive.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on January 28, 2022, 08:05:58 PM
Nice detail work Mr Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: MSea on January 28, 2022, 08:57:30 PM
WOW and a "just how do you do it" from me again
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 03, 2022, 09:25:27 AM
                                                Bridge and funnels now in position, few more bits and bobs added.

                               I'm trying to sus out a rigging plan, I thought it would be easy after doing
                         it's sister ship but I seem to be making heavy weather of it. There are at
                            least twenty pieces of standing rigging fitted to the deck, biggest problem
                        is all the signal haliyards, making sure they don't collide with the other stuff
                                   is proving to be a bit problematic.
                           Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on February 03, 2022, 09:44:17 AM
Lost for words.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 03, 2022, 09:50:47 AM
Lost for words.
Never!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on February 03, 2022, 09:56:16 AM
Lost for words.
Never!
I won't reply, as I would be well and truly moderated!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on February 03, 2022, 12:44:07 PM
Amazing. That's the model not Dave's loss of words.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: cph64 on February 03, 2022, 03:10:16 PM
Fantastic work, as always.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 03, 2022, 04:05:46 PM
Lost for words.
Never!
I won't reply, as I would be well and truly moderated!
That would make your eyes water!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 03, 2022, 04:08:08 PM
Just for a change, main armamant fitted.
Big sister in the background.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bigkev on February 03, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
Lost for words.
Never!
I won't reply, as I would be well and truly moderated!
That would make your eyes water!

Yes, it would!
Been on a course on squeezing parts of the anatomy.......
Bigkev
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 04, 2022, 07:40:46 AM
Lost for words.
Never!
I won't reply, as I would be well and truly moderated!
That would make your eyes water!

Yes, it would!
Been on a course on squeezing parts of the anatomy.......
Bigkev
This is getting out of hand!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: cph64 on February 04, 2022, 04:06:06 PM
Interesting to see the two models side by side showing some of the differences you mentioned.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bob C on February 05, 2022, 06:33:11 PM
Looking good.

Bob c
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 10, 2022, 04:14:24 PM
Progress is slow but steady, bit like me!

First shot is the foremast fitted with some rigging.
Next is just a better view of the rigging.
Then we have the mainmast built and rigged.
Fourth shot is a thing on purpose to assist in getting masts to be set up plumb in both axes.
Finally, both masts fitted and another thing on purpose to help with the rigging. There are twenty individual pieces of standing rigging
and forty four pieces of running rigging, mainly signal haliyards, all are secured by passing through holes in the deck.
Hopefully, this should make it easier.
There's another eight miscellaneous pieces.
This could take a while.
Haddock
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on February 10, 2022, 05:45:24 PM
Looks like a proper little shipyard.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on February 11, 2022, 03:07:44 PM
All hail the ship rigging master. Great work Tony.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 11, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
Looks like the thing on purpose for rigging works. Foremast part rigged, signal haliyards yet to do.

The pictures probably speak for themselves.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on February 12, 2022, 07:04:33 AM
All ship shape and Bristol fashion. Lots of rigging there.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on February 12, 2022, 02:30:20 PM
Truly amazing.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bigkev on February 13, 2022, 04:54:40 PM
Excellent attention to detail, and a bloomin' steady hand.
Nice, very nice.
Bigkev
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bob C on February 13, 2022, 06:21:08 PM
excellent rigging work.

Bob c
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 14, 2022, 02:50:28 PM
Mainmast with signal haliyards added.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on February 14, 2022, 04:20:27 PM
That's a lot of rigging.
Do you use different diameters for different types?
It is difficult to tell on the photo.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 15, 2022, 08:46:05 AM
There are THREE different sizes, I'm not sure it makes much difference, it depends how much you stretch the thread.
Streching to twice the free length reduces the diameter by about 25%, it takes four times to get to 50%.
The lower masts are the original plastic so you've got to be very careful not to bend them out of plumb.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on February 16, 2022, 02:57:38 PM
How many hours do spend doing the rigging Tony?
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 16, 2022, 04:14:18 PM
It varies considerably. I don't model every day but I should think the latest creation has been in progress for more than a week,
rigging-wise.
Sometimes things go smoothly, other times I wonder if I should take up doing jigsaw puzzles.
I don't bother about time, too much like being at work.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on February 17, 2022, 01:47:55 PM
It varies considerably. I don't model every day but I should think the latest creation has been in progress for more than a week,
rigging-wise.
Sometimes things go smoothly, other times I wonder if I should take up doing jigsaw puzzles.
I don't bother about time, too much like being at work.
Haddock.
Jigsaws may be easier but you won't get the same effect. Excellent as always Tony.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bigkev on February 17, 2022, 08:30:55 PM
It varies considerably. I don't model every day but I should think the latest creation has been in progress for more than a week,
rigging-wise.
Sometimes things go smoothly, other times I wonder if I should take up doing jigsaw puzzles.
I don't bother about time, too much like being at work.
Haddock.
Jigsaws may be easier but you won't get the same effect. Excellent as always Tony.

Fully agree !
Bigkev
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: cph64 on February 20, 2022, 11:44:49 AM
Yet again another Master Class!!!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on February 22, 2022, 03:50:07 PM
Masts fully rigged, cranes in place and some boats,
then some more boats.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on February 25, 2022, 08:06:04 AM
Nice boats, you'll be opening your own pool soon!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bigkev on February 25, 2022, 04:49:11 PM
Nice boats, you'll be opening your own pool soon!

Bath time in Haddocks house must be interesting, most boys only have one model boat at Bath time. Ho, ho, ho, ho
Bigkev
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bob C on February 26, 2022, 08:26:53 PM
Excellent work.

Bob c
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on February 27, 2022, 02:51:40 PM
Very nice Mr Haddock. I don't know how you model at that scale.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on March 07, 2022, 08:18:57 AM
                       Progress is painfully slow although I  have been making bases
      for "lockdown! models which I hadn't bothered to do at the time.
                     I've abandoned the bespoke set of railings as I just can't get them
         to fit as I want and resorted to generic railings, probably not historically
        correct but who'se to know.
                      So that's foredeck and quarterdeck done, plus some boats.
     Just the midships section to do which may be problematic because of
     ships boats in the way.
                    Haddock.
 
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on March 07, 2022, 09:41:40 AM
Nice as always. Generic eh, we know though!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: MSea on March 07, 2022, 12:32:54 PM
Generic or bespoke - still better than I can do with either  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on March 07, 2022, 02:49:39 PM
Looking really top notch.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bob C on March 07, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
Excellent work as always.

Bob c
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on March 07, 2022, 03:20:39 PM
Starboard side midship section railings added along with some boats.
The rigging will go on when the adhesive has fully dried.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on March 08, 2022, 07:58:24 AM
Big word - adhesive - that is!
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: MSea on March 08, 2022, 08:01:36 AM
You are big and brave Zak - you will be on the list again - hohohoho
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: zak on March 08, 2022, 08:03:45 AM
You are big and brave Zak - you will be on the list again - hohohoho
I never get off it.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on March 08, 2022, 08:45:26 AM
Big word - adhesive - that is!
Looked it up in the dixonary, it means stiky stuf.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Haddock on March 09, 2022, 02:59:13 PM
Now we have a full complement of ships boats.
Haddock.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: chriswil42 on March 10, 2022, 03:09:02 PM
Excellent Tony.
Title: Re: SMS SZENT ISTVAN (ST STEPHEN) IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER.
Post by: Bigkev on March 10, 2022, 06:24:52 PM
Looking a really busy model.
Nice work.
Bigkev