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Title: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 04, 2021, 08:28:58 AM
While the moat on the Beverley Gate cures. this will be the start of the next project/possible diorama, It really depends on how the figures turn out.
It must be Civil Wars that fascinate me, I have no idea why.
I have always had an interest in The American Civil War and watched the TV program on it many years ago.
I think it may be that photography was used and they provide a real, if posed record of the people and times.

This set from ICM contains 4 figures.


Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 04, 2021, 08:30:16 AM
These photos show the parts that make up one of the soldiers and the Officer.
Some cleaning up was required but the officer went together well.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: MSea on March 04, 2021, 08:59:44 AM
How very CIVIL of you -hohoho
Have used ICM figures before and they are very good for the price. Put them in a diorama then we can all steal some ideas from what you come up with, will follow this with interest. 
Was just thinking - are you doing this from your own recollections when you were in the ACW  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 04, 2021, 09:01:45 AM
How very CIVIL of you -hohoho
Have used ICM figures before and they are very good for the price. Put them in a diorama then we can all steal some ideas from what you come up with, will follow this with interest. 
Was just thinking - are you doing this from your own recollections when you were in the ACW  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
No, cheek, I have just been re-reading the Starbuck Chronicles from Bernard Cornwell, maybe that inspired me.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: MSea on March 04, 2021, 09:06:25 AM
You can read -  ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 04, 2021, 12:51:18 PM
Undercoated.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: chriswil42 on March 04, 2021, 02:11:17 PM
Looking very good. Going for a whole regiment with you speed of build?
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: MSea on March 04, 2021, 02:24:25 PM
Regiment Chris he will have an army done by tea time  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: chriswil42 on March 05, 2021, 11:01:04 AM
Regiment Chris he will have an army done by tea time  :) :) :) :)
Let's wait and see.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: cph64 on March 05, 2021, 05:20:13 PM
If MSea built these they'd be GOP members storming the White House!!!!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: MSea on March 05, 2021, 05:46:13 PM
Thanks for the idea Chris
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 06, 2021, 10:24:48 AM
Paining in progress.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: MSea on March 06, 2021, 10:47:22 AM
Looking great Zak
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: chriswil42 on March 06, 2021, 01:23:46 PM
Paintwork looks good.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: Bob C on March 06, 2021, 08:08:38 PM
Another figure painter, they look really good.

Bob c
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 07, 2021, 08:01:35 AM
Thanks for the comments.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 07, 2021, 11:03:26 AM
Officer just about completed.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 07, 2021, 02:19:50 PM
The other 3 figures.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: MSea on March 07, 2021, 02:31:19 PM
Great
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: chriswil42 on March 07, 2021, 02:51:15 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: Haddock on March 07, 2021, 04:10:40 PM
Neat that!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: kiwichappers on March 07, 2021, 05:57:41 PM
They look good Dave, perhaps the clothes are a bit shiny. Maybe the uniforms would benefit from a clear coat of a very flat matt. Just a thought.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 08, 2021, 07:32:34 AM
They look good Dave, perhaps the clothes are a bit shiny. Maybe the uniforms would benefit from a clear coat of a very flat matt. Just a thought.
Yes, good idea - I usual give them a coat of matt varnish - I forgot,
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: zak on March 08, 2021, 12:17:06 PM
Matt varnish applied now, I may need to shine the officer's boots,
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 08, 2021, 12:23:00 PM
You may notice that the title has been changed, I have been sucked into the American Civil War, so hopefully this will be the next build.
I have admired the submarines being built by Kevin and Tony, so decided to try one.

This is the 1/35 MIKR MIR CSS H. L. Hunley.
This was a privately built submarine named for its inventor and was credited with being the first submarine to sink a ship during wartime.
This was powered by hand cranking by 8 men.
The kit parts are shown here.
No locating pins for the hull halves, so care will be needed here.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: MSea on March 08, 2021, 12:25:40 PM
I see you have SUB-merged yourself into another subject  8) 8) 8) 8)
Will enjoy watching this one progress.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 08, 2021, 12:46:04 PM
I think this may have been a locomotive boiler that was lengthened and strengthened.
Some sources say a crew of 7 to crank and one to steer.
She sank 3 times with the loss of 21 men, including the inventor.
She has been raised and is in a museum in N. Charlestown.
It did have ballast tanks forward and aft, an iron weight could also be released if further buoyancy was required.
It was 4 ft 3 in in height.
You wouldn't want to be in it, NO fear.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: chriswil42 on March 08, 2021, 02:37:51 PM
Should be an interesting build. Quite a story behind it.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 08, 2021, 05:37:50 PM
Some serious brass bending.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: Haddock on March 09, 2021, 07:45:00 AM
Interesting!
Haddock.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederate Infantry from ICM
Post by: Red Lancer on March 09, 2021, 11:12:04 AM
Matt varnish applied now, I may need to shine the officer's boots,
They look really good!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 10, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
While the filler, yes the join in the hull was not good, cures I got thinking about what to do with the submarine.
I don't just want to put it on the stand, but want some sort of scenic setting.

The sub was raised 3 times that last in modern times.
The other two would have involved some heavy lifting on a ship.
So I will attempt to model the rear of a scow with some lifting gear attempting the raise the sub - the crew were still inside apparently.
So I needed some pulley blocks.
Here are my efforts.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: MSea on March 10, 2021, 09:15:47 AM
Excellent - should lift at least 50tons
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 10, 2021, 09:45:36 AM
Excellent - should lift at least 50tons
That's ok, the sub was about 7 tons + 8 bodies - gruesome or what, and before you ask I probably won't model the bodies - I'll leave that to you.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 10, 2021, 01:11:47 PM
Here is the inspiration for the scenario.

The lifting apparatus under construction.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: chriswil42 on March 10, 2021, 01:21:48 PM
Should be an interesting diorama. When is the picture dated?
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 10, 2021, 03:16:51 PM
Should be an interesting diorama. When is the picture dated?
I think it is a modern rendering of the second raising.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: Red Lancer on March 10, 2021, 05:26:48 PM
While the filler, yes the join in the hull was not good, cures I got thinking about what to do with the submarine.
I don't just want to put it on the stand, but want some sort of scenic setting.

The sub was raised 3 times that last in modern times.
The other two would have involved some heavy lifting on a ship.
So I will attempt to model the rear of a scow with some lifting gear attempting the raise the sub - the crew were still inside apparently.
So I needed some pulley blocks.
Here are my efforts.

Fantastic stuff
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 11, 2021, 11:17:07 AM
slow progress.
I have painted the submarine black/grey rather than black, this will be rusted and weathered.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 11, 2021, 12:52:00 PM
Too much rust methinks!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: chriswil42 on March 11, 2021, 01:32:27 PM
Too much rust methinks!
I don't know - it looks pretty good to me.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: MSea on March 11, 2021, 02:03:55 PM
Don't understand - you can never have too much rust - hohohohho
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 11, 2021, 02:33:56 PM
I've run out of Modge Podge, I will have to order some to finish the sea.
I wonder if anyone does a pre 1900 diver in 1/35, no luck so far, except Verlinden, even that is a bit modern.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: chriswil42 on March 11, 2021, 03:00:52 PM
Looking very nice. The lifting gear with the pulleys and chains are excellent.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: Haddock on March 11, 2021, 03:23:24 PM
Too much rust methinks!
Definitely.
Needs spreading out.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 11, 2021, 05:33:32 PM
Too much rust methinks!
Definitely.
Needs spreading out.
Agreed
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 12, 2021, 07:38:21 AM
The figure gives a feeling of scale.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: kiwichappers on March 12, 2021, 09:00:32 AM
Late to the party again, sorry I missed your matted down uniforms earlier. They definitely look much better.

Now this tin fish. An intriguing machine from a period when submarines were in a fledgling and relatively dangerous phase of their development. Thanks for bringing another interesting and well executed model to us.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 12, 2021, 09:08:42 AM
Hi Francis, apparently there were at least 20 submarines of one sort or another operating in the ACW. Some more successful than others.
The Union used them mainly for mine and harbour clearance, the Confederacy for destroying blockading ships.
There were also torpedo boats, that appear to be almost submerged.
Torpedoes were of the spar variety, an explosive charge at the end of a pole rammed into or attached to a ship and exploded.

The next stage will be to scratch build a divers.
Something like the picture I hope!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: chriswil42 on March 12, 2021, 01:49:10 PM
Excellent start on the diver. Looking very good. What did you make the helmet from?
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 12, 2021, 02:13:16 PM
Excellent start on the diver. Looking very good. What did you make the helmet from?
I used green stuff, two part epoxy putty - starts off blue and yellow.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: councilman on March 12, 2021, 02:34:07 PM
Fascinating subject Dave,
I looked up the Hunley... What a death trap! Its crew must have had nerves of steel and they payed for it with their lives in the end.
Excellent stuff.
Andy.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: Bigkev on March 13, 2021, 06:41:12 PM
Wow Zak,
This is a fantastic build, and I really like the diorama.
If this doesn't appear in the IPMS Magazine then there is no justice.
Excellent modelling skills and scratch building techniques.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 14, 2021, 09:41:26 AM
Wow Zak,
This is a fantastic build, and I really like the diorama.
If this doesn't appear in the IPMS Magazine then there is no justice.
Excellent modelling skills and scratch building techniques.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Thanks Kevin.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: zak on March 17, 2021, 01:35:00 PM
Sorry, not much done, the diver is proving to require a lot  of thought.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: Red Lancer on March 19, 2021, 06:32:16 PM
Too much rust methinks!
Yup!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: Red Lancer on March 19, 2021, 06:35:06 PM
Hi Francis, apparently there were at least 20 submarines of one sort or another operating in the ACW. Some more successful than others.
The Union used them mainly for mine and harbour clearance, the Confederacy for destroying blockading ships.
There were also torpedo boats, that appear to be almost submerged.
Torpedoes were of the spar variety, an explosive charge at the end of a pole rammed into or attached to a ship and exploded.

The next stage will be to scratch build a divers.
Something like the picture I hope!
Wow! Helmetand face look marvellous!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: cph64 on April 01, 2021, 02:41:29 PM
Like Francis I'm playing catch-up and have enjoyed reading this. I think the Hunley featured in the bubble gum cards about the American Civil War that were out when I was a kid.
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: chriswil42 on April 02, 2021, 02:27:52 PM
Like Francis I'm playing catch-up and have enjoyed reading this. I think the Hunley featured in the bubble gum cards about the American Civil War that were out when I was a kid.
Cripes - I remember my school friends having some of those cards!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: cph64 on April 02, 2021, 05:16:58 PM
Ah good, dementia hasn't set in with me yet, lol!!!!
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: Bigkev on April 02, 2021, 07:01:33 PM
Ah good, dementia hasn't set in with me yet, lol!!!!

Excuse me, remind me, who are you...???
Think, I'm Bigkev.....
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: chriswil42 on April 03, 2021, 01:14:44 PM
Ah good, dementia hasn't set in with me yet, lol!!!!

Excuse me, remind me, who are you...???
Think, I'm Bigkev.....
Is that the name we normally use?
Title: Re: 1:35 American Civil War Confederacy
Post by: Bigkev on April 06, 2021, 04:41:53 PM
Ah good, dementia hasn't set in with me yet, lol!!!!

Excuse me, remind me, who are you...???
Think, I'm Bigkev.....
Is that the name we normally use?

Nope,

You guys, probably have several names for me, some more sensitive than others.
But I belong to this group and as long as you are happy for me within it I can take any name/tag you wish.
Cheers,
Bigkev......I think, maybe for today, or next week/year?