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Title: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 04, 2020, 09:49:13 AM
Looking in the loft for the next parts I need to work on the Varyag ( don't shout at me Haddock, it is being worked on ) and found this Tamiya KV2 tank.
John will be happy, it is going to be placed in a ditch and very very well rusted. Some of the parts like tow cable, machine gun etc will be removed and then on with the rusting. A couple of figures from the MiniArt Soviet villagers will be placed in the diorama alongside an old grave from when the tank was destroyed, hence the title "Respect for the Fallen"
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: zak on August 04, 2020, 10:19:32 AM
How long ago did you build that?
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Post by: MSea on August 04, 2020, 10:28:35 AM
About 30 to 40 years ago 
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Post by: zak on August 04, 2020, 10:29:38 AM
About 30 to 40 years ago
Nearly your age then?
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Post by: MSea on August 04, 2020, 12:01:22 PM
Yes if you add them together - hohohohho
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Post by: MSea on August 04, 2020, 01:45:41 PM
Sorry Bob but this is what you do to a tank when you are a ship modeler - hohohoho
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: cph64 on August 04, 2020, 02:32:10 PM
There's several photos of KV2s in ditches on line (the Russians must have been lousy drivers) and there's also one of a knocked out vehicle stranded in a river so you could have used both your genres!!!
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 04, 2020, 03:59:30 PM
Let's see what you can do with this one then Martin.
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Post by: Red Lancer on August 04, 2020, 05:40:37 PM
Go on then....amaze me or scare me, I'm never sure which it is going to be!
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 04, 2020, 05:50:37 PM
Base coat of rust added
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 05, 2020, 02:42:17 PM
How long's it been in the river?
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Post by: MSea on August 05, 2020, 03:22:58 PM
No river just a damp ditch Chris
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Post by: MSea on August 05, 2020, 05:15:42 PM
Damp ditch under construction - will fasten it down and then carve out some more before adding some acrylic sides and plaster for the top soil.
Might try to make some top soil from crushed tea leaves and PVA glue, will give it a try and if no good go to plan B.
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: zak on August 05, 2020, 05:34:26 PM
Make a bigger ditch!
You can never have too big a ditch.
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Post by: MSea on August 05, 2020, 08:23:18 PM
That's the final size Zak - acrylic surrounds made and fastened together. When its dry and solid will start to fill it in.
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Post by: Haddock on August 06, 2020, 06:46:29 AM
Looks like a tray of vanilla ice-cream to me!
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Post by: MSea on August 06, 2020, 08:00:58 AM
Don't think I will have an ice cream if I visit you again - hohohohoho
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 06, 2020, 08:54:37 AM
Is that some sort of foam you are using for the ditch Martin?
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Post by: MSea on August 06, 2020, 01:39:44 PM
Its some insulating foam my friend Richard used when sorting his garage out , carves nice with a sharp edge unlike expanded poly.
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 06, 2020, 02:48:26 PM
Looks like a tray of vanilla ice-cream to me!
Its changed to chocolate ice-cream just for you Haddock.  Really its ground tea leaves mixed with water and when its was a paste, PVA glue added. Will see how it is when its dry - that is if Haddock doesn't come in and eat it all - hohohohoho
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Post by: cph64 on August 06, 2020, 05:09:35 PM
Looks like a mutant Oreo!!!
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Post by: Bob C on August 06, 2020, 05:25:27 PM
I like the red paint.
Bob c
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 07, 2020, 01:53:35 PM
I like the red paint.
Bob c
I suppose it is a reddish brown.
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Post by: Haddock on August 07, 2020, 04:49:30 PM
Looks like Christmas cake now!
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Post by: MSea on August 08, 2020, 09:06:46 AM
Is she not feeding you enough - you seem to have food on the brain, ice cream chocolate cake, what next ??????? hohohohohoho
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 08, 2020, 05:56:28 PM
Some green added to the mud - NOW what food does it remind you of ??????
Tank tracks also removed - think it looks more abandoned without tracks.
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: zak on August 08, 2020, 07:03:15 PM
Have some tracks on, but as if they have come off.
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Post by: MSea on August 08, 2020, 09:02:40 PM
So Zak, you want me to be off the tracks, is that the same as being off the rails ?????
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Post by: zak on August 09, 2020, 07:03:15 AM
So Zak, you want me to be off the tracks, is that the same as being off the rails ?????
Both apply equally in your case!
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 09, 2020, 10:27:11 AM
Will take up your suggestion - will have the tracks removed from the top set (stbd side off the tank) and broken and folded under on the other side, thanks for the idea.
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: Haddock on August 10, 2020, 10:03:07 AM
Some green added to the mud - NOW what food does it remind you of ??????
Tank tracks also removed - think it looks more abandoned without tracks.
Don't know what it resembles now but it looks quite appetising.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: chriswil42 on August 10, 2020, 01:43:56 PM
Somebody MUST be hungry.
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Post by: Red Lancer on August 11, 2020, 04:33:59 PM
It looks fantastic!
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Post by: Bigkev on August 11, 2020, 07:42:39 PM
See what 'Lockdown' do's for you.....
Even Martin's grass looks appealing.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 15, 2020, 03:56:19 PM
Sorry again Bob - not only have I hacked great big holes in the tank, am now making it look like it has thrown its track as well.
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Post by: zak on August 15, 2020, 04:16:03 PM
Love the pegs again an essential modelling item.
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Post by: MSea on August 15, 2020, 05:41:53 PM
How can you do any job without a hammer and pegs !!!!!
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Post by: councilman on August 16, 2020, 03:29:25 PM
Sorry again Bob - not only have I hacked great big holes in the tank, am now making it look like it has thrown its track as well.
I can feel a bit of track bashing coming on...
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 16, 2020, 04:24:01 PM
The headstone nearing completion just needs the red star in the circle - now can I make one that small or will it just be paint ????
The helmet will have the stick removed and a flower sticking out of the hole - seen this in a photo, not sure if it was posed or natural but it looked good and was very poignant.
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Post by: MSea on August 16, 2020, 06:29:09 PM
Decided that I will use 2 figures from the MiniArt  Soviet Villagers set - will use the very small boy and the older lady on the right of the box picture
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 17, 2020, 02:47:05 PM
No zombies then?
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Post by: MSea on August 17, 2020, 05:00:41 PM
Sorry Chris but no zombies -- are you missing them ???????
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 18, 2020, 09:35:44 AM
No. You just have a reputation to keep up.
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Post by: MSea on August 18, 2020, 11:39:08 AM
What have I started !!!!!!
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Post by: Bigkev on August 18, 2020, 12:02:31 PM
Hi Msea,
Zombie Czar sounds about right.
Bigkev
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Post by: cph64 on August 18, 2020, 04:19:47 PM
I watched a German film dubbed into English last night about Stalingrad, very atmospheric from which you'll have to tatty the peasants clothes up a lot and grey was the derigeur colour. Re tank tracks I use pieces of foam to get the sag between the rollers and KV2s had a heck of a sag!!!
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: Bigkev on August 18, 2020, 08:20:41 PM
I watched a German film dubbed into English last night about Stalingrad, very atmospheric from which you'll have to tatty the peasants clothes up a lot and grey was the derigeur colour. Re tank tracks I use pieces of foam to get the sag between the rollers and KV2s had a heck of a sag!!!

A bit like Msea's belly.
Into the shelter now, Msea retribution incoming......
Bigkev
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Post by: MSea on August 18, 2020, 08:57:03 PM
Incoming on the way !!!!!!
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Post by: MSea on August 19, 2020, 03:26:46 PM
Headstone fitted to the grave - working on the damaged helmet with flower.
Second photo shows some various rust colours on the tank  and silver on the large welds ( just for Haddock the welds on the main armour plate are silver because of the high chromium content in these welds the other weld made using just bog standard welding )
When all dry some chipping medium and original green paint cover, then lots of washes  and pigments.
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: Haddock on August 19, 2020, 04:27:40 PM
Headstone fitted to the grave - working on the damaged helmet with flower.
Second photo shows some various rust colours on the tank  and silver on the large welds ( just for Haddock the welds on the main armour plate are silver because of the high chromium content in these welds the other weld made using just bog standard welding )
When all dry some chipping medium and original green paint cover, then lots of washes  and pigments.
Hope the welded area was correctly pre-heated, we don't want any cracks to appear!!
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: zak on August 19, 2020, 05:34:44 PM
It is all far too high tech for me.
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 19, 2020, 06:22:44 PM
Looking forward to seeing this finished.
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Post by: Bigkev on August 19, 2020, 08:13:52 PM
It is all far too high tech for me.

Me, too!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 21, 2020, 06:37:15 PM
Helmet and flower added to the grave - that's all that's been done over the last 2 days, back giving me a lot of trouble at the moment.
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: zak on August 22, 2020, 07:40:38 AM
Sorry to hear about your back, hope it improves.
Nice grave -if that is the right thing to say about a grave?
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Post by: MSea on August 22, 2020, 09:33:03 AM
Thanks Zak - back improving a little.  Yes what do you say about a grave.
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Post by: cph64 on August 22, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Well tendered usually does it for graves. Re your back, you've spent too much leaning forward modelling. You old people should go to Shackleton's you know!! Either that or get the Memsahib to walk up and down on it!!!!
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Post by: councilman on August 23, 2020, 03:35:32 PM
All looking very nice.
Go easy on that back Martin.
Its a Hard game, this modelling...
Andy.
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Post by: MSea on August 23, 2020, 03:39:35 PM
Thanks Andy - yes not doing a lot and the back is starting to get a little better. 
Using a lot of naughty nautical language to try and get my air brush working again at 100%.
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 23, 2020, 03:49:59 PM
Looking good Martin. Take care and do things slowly!
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Post by: Red Lancer on August 24, 2020, 10:32:31 AM
Hope your back is improving
Model is coming on well!
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Post by: MSea on August 28, 2020, 04:10:52 PM
The two figures have now been put together - priming and painting next.
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Post by: zak on August 28, 2020, 05:36:13 PM
The two figures have now been put together - priming and painting next.
That is one sulky looking child - who could it be?
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Post by: Bigkev on August 28, 2020, 06:21:30 PM
Could it be someone not too tall?
Bigkev
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Post by: MSea on August 28, 2020, 07:23:37 PM
I don't know - but I do know that Kevin is in trouble - hohohohoho
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 29, 2020, 02:30:11 PM
Could it be someone not too tall?
Bigkev
Who's that then?
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Post by: councilman on August 29, 2020, 06:27:33 PM
The two figures have now been put together - priming and painting next.
That is one sulky looking child - who could it be?
Its Jimmy Cranky...
Andy.
Title: Re: Respect for the fallen - KV2 after WW2
Post by: MSea on August 29, 2020, 07:40:31 PM
Some Tamiya animals made to give the diorama a more after the war feel.
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Post by: zak on August 30, 2020, 08:11:37 AM
Some Tamiya animals made to give the diorama a more after the war feel.
War Pigs? - it is a number by Black Sabbath
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 30, 2020, 03:00:56 PM
Pigs were used by the Romans in some boattles I believe.
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Post by: MSea on August 30, 2020, 03:26:42 PM
Now I am interested - how did they use them ??????
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Post by: zak on August 30, 2020, 03:36:02 PM
Now I am interested - how did they use them ??????
Watch Hannibal Lecter films for some ideas.
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Post by: MSea on August 30, 2020, 03:53:06 PM
Never seen one - not my type of film.
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Post by: cph64 on August 30, 2020, 06:12:40 PM
Didn't Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart have a song called 'China Pig'? I know the Beatles had 'Piggies', but I digress......
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Post by: chriswil42 on August 31, 2020, 03:27:13 PM
Now I am interested - how did they use them ??????
I think they covered them in bitumen and set them alight and were expected to run into the enemy lines!!!!!
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Post by: cph64 on September 01, 2020, 04:11:11 PM
Oh my!!!! Bit strange though supplying the enemy with BBQ pork ribs and crackling?
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Post by: Bigkev on September 01, 2020, 08:09:52 PM
Oh my!!!! Bit strange though supplying the enemy with BBQ pork ribs and crackling?

Could these be the early forefathers 'Deliveroo'
Bigkev
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Post by: MSea on September 01, 2020, 08:19:25 PM
Yes Kevin it was pig to elephant delivery service -- or that is what I have read (some say it was only in one battle and it was not the Romans doing it - but who knows, we could ask Zak I think he was around at the time - hohohoho)  it was supposed to frighten the elephants and make them turn round and trample their own troops, that was the idea.
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Post by: Bigkev on September 01, 2020, 08:21:46 PM
Yes Kevin it was pig to elephant delivery service -- or that is what I have read (some say it was only in one battle and it was not the Romans doing it - but who knows, we could ask Zak I think he was around at the time - hohohoho)  it was supposed to frighten the elephants and make them turn round and trample their own troops, that was the idea.

Who ever thought of that scenario made a 'Pig's Ear' of it.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Bigkev
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Post by: zak on September 02, 2020, 07:41:50 AM
Pork Life?
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Post by: MSea on November 19, 2020, 06:55:10 PM
A coat of  chipping medium and then a top coat of green, soon to be mainly removed.
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Post by: zak on November 20, 2020, 07:12:04 AM
I had forgotten all about this.
The inspiration has obviously returned I presume?
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Post by: MSea on November 20, 2020, 09:39:06 AM
I had forgotten all about this.
The inspiration has obviously returned I presume?

Yes been slowly working on things for the shopping center - but most time spent on other things none modelling. 
Was reading the new "Damaged weathered & worn" special magazine by Fine Scale Modeler magazine, and as she who must be obeyed was watching a chick flik on television decided to get some more done on this model as well as the shop fronts.Was going into the garden today to fix next doors fence again but it is wet and cold and think I will stay in and do some jobs in the house and then some more on the tank. Some paint removed and tank fastened into place - now needs some more mud and grass round the tracks,to make it part of the ground not floating above it.
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Post by: chriswil42 on November 20, 2020, 12:39:33 PM
Looking very good Martin.
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Post by: cph64 on November 20, 2020, 05:25:04 PM
It's got more chips than McCains, sorry I couldn't resist!!
Funny how our other halves tend to dictate our modelling output. Tracy is getting in the mood to watch crappy American B Xmas movies so that will mean more time modelling, so it's not such a bad thing really?
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Post by: Bigkev on November 20, 2020, 06:45:10 PM
It's got more chips than McCains, sorry I couldn't resist!!
Funny how our other halves tend to dictate our modelling output. Tracy is getting in the mood to watch crappy American B Xmas movies so that will mean more time modelling, so it's not such a bad thing really?

Every cloud has a silver lining, Chris!

Seize the moment, I say.

Cheers,
Bigkev
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Post by: councilman on November 22, 2020, 01:35:38 PM
Lots of work gone into this build.  Looking the part now but nothing a tin of Hammerite wouldn't sort out.
Andy.
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Post by: Red Lancer on November 23, 2020, 11:47:51 AM
It looks great! Well done.
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Post by: MSea on November 29, 2020, 01:09:33 PM
Sorry to upset you Red but have now started on the figures have put the base coat of colours on the figures - had an idea about using one of those face covering sections you see on TV so people can't be identified so you can't see the mess I make of the painting  :) :) :) :)
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Post by: councilman on November 29, 2020, 01:10:54 PM
That looks like my Mum... ???
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Post by: MSea on November 29, 2020, 01:20:33 PM
Think it looks like most peoples mum's.
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Post by: MSea on September 12, 2021, 06:02:34 PM
Well you can blame IKEA - I should be painting walls putting furniture together and sorting out new flooring - but its back to trying to finish off some models.
Have we decided who the little sulky boy looks like yet ?   Was going to do the lady's top just plain colour but have decided to try some embroidery on it - if it doesn't work will just overpaint as plain.
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Post by: chriswil42 on September 12, 2021, 08:32:35 PM
I can't guess.
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Post by: MSea on September 18, 2021, 03:42:48 PM
Some more work done
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Post by: chriswil42 on September 18, 2021, 04:34:55 PM
Very nice Martin. The cardigan is not as bright as your shirt.
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Post by: MSea on September 18, 2021, 07:09:39 PM
Is anything Chris - YoHoHo - that one is because Sunday is "Pirates Day" don't forget the RUM  ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D :o :o
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Post by: MSea on March 06, 2023, 02:08:40 PM
Well sorting out more bits and bobs and found the box with all the figures I needed to finish off a couple of models - this included the pigs and geese to finish off this model.
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Post by: zak on March 06, 2023, 02:25:40 PM
Another blast from the past!
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Post by: MSea on March 06, 2023, 02:35:34 PM
Is that ME or the model - hohhohoho  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: zak on March 06, 2023, 02:40:55 PM
Is that ME or the model - hohhohoho  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
You choose!
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Post by: chriswil42 on March 07, 2023, 02:38:15 PM
It looks like you've been going through the loft Martin.
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Post by: zak on March 07, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
It looks like you've been going through the loft Martin.
Better tha going through the roof!
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Post by: MSea on March 07, 2023, 03:18:35 PM
No just sorting out things that had been put away when I redid my room - stuff in the loft, garage etc
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Post by: cph64 on March 08, 2023, 10:16:51 AM
The wonderful world of part finished projects!!
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Post by: chriswil42 on March 08, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
Well, they're not on the shelf of shame!
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Post by: Bigkev on March 08, 2023, 03:41:18 PM
I have lots of both.
Bigkev