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Title: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 10, 2020, 09:33:13 AM
I have decided to try to do another tractor diorama, the tractor has not arrived yet and so I am making the surroundings while I wait the arrival of the tractor - the title may change, so be warned.
Here is the work so far.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: MSea on June 10, 2020, 09:41:17 AM
Are the walls plaster of Paris and then scored or are they part of a plastic building ?????
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: zak on June 10, 2020, 09:57:37 AM
Are the walls plaster of Paris and then scored or are they part of a plastic building ?????
The walls are foamboard coated with DAS and then the stonework scribed in.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: zak on June 10, 2020, 12:25:41 PM
Metal gate under construction.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: zak on June 10, 2020, 01:13:46 PM
Dry stone walling - cat litter and PVA glue.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: MSea on June 10, 2020, 01:48:56 PM
I have 3 boxes of assorted size cat litter - amazing what you collect as a modeler, and I don't even have a cat !!!!!
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: zak on June 10, 2020, 01:52:28 PM
I have 3 boxes of assorted size cat litter - amazing what you collect as a modeler, and I don't even have a cat !!!!!
We have never had a cat either, useful for modelling though.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: MSea on June 10, 2020, 02:01:35 PM
very
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Post by: chriswil42 on June 10, 2020, 03:33:28 PM
Different grades of cat litter for different scales?
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: zak on June 10, 2020, 04:02:58 PM
Different grades of cat litter for different scales?
You just have to sieve it.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: MSea on June 10, 2020, 04:06:48 PM
I sieve into 3 sizes and then grind some in a mortar and pestle for dust.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: zak on June 11, 2020, 10:36:24 AM
Here is more progress on the barn and the base.
The base is chipboard framed and the has Artex or the equivalent material spread on it, it will eventually be painted.
The building is made from foam board coated in DAS air drying clay and then the stones are marked in with a scriber. These were then painted and given a number of different washes.
The roof is card slates - well not slates, more like thin stone slates, painted and weathered,
I still have to add gutters and downpipes.
The doors are scribed card that has been painted and weathered, they still need door handles.
No tractor yet.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a tractor
Post by: zak on June 11, 2020, 12:36:09 PM
The tractor has just arrived, it is essentially the same as the Airfix one but has a bucket on the front and a container on the rear.
This is a 1/35 Thunder Models US Army Loader, I will probably finish it in civilian guise of some sort.
I will not go through the build, expect for where it differs from the Airfix tractor.
So while, the barn and its base dries out, on with the tractor.
I have already spotted extra etched material - very coppery coloured and some nuts on the sprue, these were not in the other, they fit around the engine casing.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Red Lancer on June 11, 2020, 01:25:49 PM
Looks like I'm going to be lost for words again!
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 11, 2020, 01:34:01 PM
The numbering of parts has been transposed on this kit, Airfix seemed to get it right on their instructions.
I have added a fan belt again from Tamiya tape, some twine like material is provided, I also replaced the nuts supplied with some hexagonal ones, I added the leads again.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: MSea on June 11, 2020, 02:11:49 PM
I know the tractor will be great but I still like the barn the most
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 12, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
This tractor has a slightly different front end to accommodate the bucket/loader.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Haddock on June 12, 2020, 10:54:44 AM
I know the tractor will be great but I still like the barn the most
Me too.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 12, 2020, 12:41:10 PM
Here is all the extra front and rear end stuff.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: cph64 on June 12, 2020, 12:54:33 PM
Coming along nicely. The link box at the rear must be for tools or small items, you'd never get a sheep in and out of that without problems!!!
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: chriswil42 on June 12, 2020, 01:00:14 PM
Tractor looking good as well as the barn Dave.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 12, 2020, 01:50:45 PM
So, while the undercoat dries and I decide on a tractor colour, it is back to the barn.
The first layer of earth and greenery added, I am sure that there will be many more.
Gutters added, but need painting, they were formed around a knitting needle with damp card.
I know knitting, another of my many talents.
The grass is pre-coloured sawdust, homemade a few years ago, it never seems to get any less.
The gate has been rusted.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 12, 2020, 03:10:41 PM
Gutters painted, down pipes being painted, some greenery added, probably more needed.
The Land Rover is for effect.
Gate open here.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 13, 2020, 12:09:10 PM
More weeds added and some livestock and the odd tool.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 13, 2020, 02:41:16 PM
The tractor has had some paint applied and has been assembled from its various parts, lots of weathering still to do.
Gate closed or gate open decision imminent, probably open I think.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Haddock on June 13, 2020, 03:38:05 PM
Gate open, tractor further out.
Haddock.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: MSea on June 13, 2020, 05:44:11 PM
I would go for gate open.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 14, 2020, 11:48:14 AM
The tractor, assembly complete, more weathering and mud needed.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 14, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
I think this is about the finished item, tractor needs some dry brushing and that will be it.
I was aiming for an old but reasonably well maintained tractor, but some mud due to the ground conditions in the lane.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Biggles on June 14, 2020, 03:52:47 PM
I don't know how you manage to work so quickly!
It looks wonderful.
Love the barn.

All you need to add now is Shaun the Sheep and some of his mates!

What is next on your modelling calendar?
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: chriswil42 on June 14, 2020, 04:17:42 PM
Excellent Dave.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 14, 2020, 05:01:12 PM
Imam not sure what to model next, bit of a problem.
I would like to combine a building with some sort of garage/workshop, but the brain cells are struggling.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Haddock on June 14, 2020, 05:21:28 PM
What about a little boatyard.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 14, 2020, 06:05:40 PM
I do have a 1/350 Corvette and the brass with it, but after the Tirpitz I am not sure, once bitten, twice shy.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Haddock on June 14, 2020, 06:48:22 PM
Could be nothing more than a shed where small wood boats are made, rowing boats
small motor boats, that sort of stuff.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: councilman on June 14, 2020, 06:50:08 PM
Absolutely amazing Dave.
Top class modelling.
For your next subject, how about a  'Royal Observer Corps Monitoring Post'. A sort of cut away under ground shot.
That would be cool.
Andy.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 15, 2020, 07:07:12 AM
Absolutely amazing Dave.
Top class modelling.
For your next subject, how about a  'Royal Observer Corps Monitoring Post'. A sort of cut away under ground shot.
That would be cool.
Andy.
I was in the ROC for a short time in the 1960's.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Haddock on June 15, 2020, 07:26:28 AM
I do have a 1/350 Corvette and the brass with it, but after the Tirpitz I am not sure, once bitten, twice shy.
I was thinking more on the lines of what you would see at places like Hornsea, Filey etc where
boats are launched off the beach using a tractor or tracked vehicle. There's usually a shed/building
where "Mr Fixit" works, makes boats, fixes engines, sloshes paint on if asked.
Probably the biggest boat would be no more than 25 ft long so in 1/48 it's within your scope
and continues the tractor theme. Engines could be anything, at that size, commercial engines
with a marine gearbox would be used.
Good excuse for a day out to do some research.
Haddock.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 15, 2020, 07:41:30 AM
I do have a 1/350 Corvette and the brass with it, but after the Tirpitz I am not sure, once bitten, twice shy.
I was thinking more on the lines of what you would see at places like Hornsea, Filey etc where
boats are launched off the beach using a tractor or tracked vehicle. There's usually a shed/building
where "Mr Fixit" works, makes boats, fixes engines, sloshes paint on if asked.
Probably the biggest boat would be no more than 25 ft long so in 1/48 it's within your scope
and continues the tractor theme. Engines could be anything, at that size, commercial engines
with a marine gearbox would be used.
Good excuse for a day out to do some research.
Haddock.
Nice idea.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 15, 2020, 09:13:01 AM
Here is my research circa 1990.
Filey Coble Landing.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Haddock on June 15, 2020, 09:17:20 AM
Good start, the rest is up to your imagination.
Haddock.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: MSea on June 15, 2020, 09:38:04 AM
You could always do a small workshop in the future repairing robots - to let your imagination run riot with the background - you could even have a zombie looking in the workshop window.
Just a thought, I think I can hear you shouting "shut up and keep your daft ideas to yourself" -- hohohohoho
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: meremodeller on June 15, 2020, 02:44:54 PM
Don't come down to Hornsea for references! the place is full to the gunwales with visitors eating Fish & Chips!
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Red Lancer on June 15, 2020, 06:39:04 PM
Excellent work Dave
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 16, 2020, 03:37:25 PM
I do have a 1/350 Corvette and the brass with it, but after the Tirpitz I am not sure, once bitten, twice shy.
I was thinking more on the lines of what you would see at places like Hornsea, Filey etc where
boats are launched off the beach using a tractor or tracked vehicle. There's usually a shed/building
where "Mr Fixit" works, makes boats, fixes engines, sloshes paint on if asked.
Probably the biggest boat would be no more than 25 ft long so in 1/48 it's within your scope
and continues the tractor theme. Engines could be anything, at that size, commercial engines
with a marine gearbox would be used.
Good excuse for a day out to do some research.
Haddock.
Nice idea.
Well, its your fault Tony, I'm learning a whole new vocabulary.
After Toft
Bumkin
Cuddy
Dyle
Foreknee
Inwire
Pug headed
Scutboard
Skorvel
Woar

and many more
A Woar is ......................... any guesses?
I have been playing about with cereal packets and so far have managed this.
It scales ou about 27 ft in 1/35 scale.
It is a bit rough and ready, it may just serve as a test piece.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Haddock on June 16, 2020, 04:34:24 PM
Looks good. The broadest part of a cobble is further forward, probably a third of the way aft.
There are still a few moored in the harbour, although different sizes, they all seem to be very
similar in plan view.
As for the new words, the fishermen used different words for the same thing dependant on where they
came from, they all seemed to have their own dialect.
They didn't have "cobbles" in Scarborough, I think they were known as "mules". A mule is pointed
at both ends.
Haddock.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 16, 2020, 05:07:29 PM
Looks good. The broadest part of a cobble is further forward, probably a third of the way aft.
There are still a few moored in the harbour, although different sizes, they all seem to be very
similar in plan view.
As for the new words, the fishermen used different words for the same thing dependant on where they
came from, they all seemed to have their own dialect.
They didn't have "cobbles" in Scarborough, I think they were known as "mules". A mule is pointed
at both ends.
Haddock.
I was following a plan that I have so I don't know.
The cobles were hand built and each one is different. They differ as to where they were made as well, make up and slope of the beach would also come into play.
A mule is usually a large double ended coble.

Woar - its what they called an oar in Bridlington apparently.

I am just adding the Korvels.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Bigkev on June 16, 2020, 08:08:31 PM
Hi Zak,
I hope the 'Korvels' are ready to go.
In these times a little delay is to be expected.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Haddock on June 17, 2020, 08:19:00 AM
Some of these words will drive you nuts, I'm sure some of it is an attempt to spell the way the word sounded when spoken.
"scutboard" could be linked to kicking-board, a scut was a clout, usually delivered with a flat hand,
"scut be'ind the lug'ole". I may be wrong of course.
Haddock
('arrock)
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 17, 2020, 09:10:45 AM
Some of these words will drive you nuts, I'm sure some of it is an attempt to spell the way the word sounded when spoken.
"scutboard" could be linked to kicking-board, a scut was a clout, usually delivered with a flat hand,
"scut be'ind the lug'ole". I may be wrong of course.
Haddock
('arrock)
Who knows, could also be scudboard? A stout transverse board over the top of the stern to hold it together.
Continues here http://www.bridscalemodelclub.org.uk/ClubForum/index.php?topic=1020.0
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Post by: Haddock on June 17, 2020, 09:23:04 AM
I can see this has opened up a whole new vista of research.
Haddock.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: zak on June 17, 2020, 09:25:01 AM
I can see this has opened up a whole new vista of research.
Haddock.
#Continued in a new thread Tony.
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: Bigkev on June 17, 2020, 07:10:16 PM
Whatever Gentlemen,
I'm sure that whatever you 'cobble up' will be brilliant.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: 1:35 Diorama with a Thunder Models tractor with loader
Post by: MSea on June 27, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
You could always do a small workshop in the future repairing robots - to let your imagination run riot with the background - you could even have a zombie looking in the workshop window.
Just a thought, I think I can hear you shouting "shut up and keep your daft ideas to yourself" -- hohohohoho

Remember this idea from me - well the postman has just delivered my new issue of "Fantasy Figures International" magazine and coming in the next issue is an article about a Scandinavian workshop repairing robots called "I can fix it with duct tape and 5-56"  is this YOU Zak and if so will you autograph my copy - hohohoho. 
Strange how daft ideas from me come around in the real world isn't it.