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Models => Modelling Projects => Topic started by: MSea on December 04, 2015, 01:12:30 PM

Title: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 04, 2015, 01:12:30 PM
Well waiting for other things to dry -- so will move over to the light side ( sorry Haddock ) and make a plane. It will be for the competition "less than £20".
Yet again the idea comes from a picture - the photo of the Beagle on display in a run down state, with the plexiglass yellowed and the front glass sections still clear got me thinking ( I will try not to do this very much, as it will damage what is inside my head. ) I will lower the front and one side wheel as if the hydraulic system had been damaged through age ( sounds like most of our group ) and heavily weather the plane.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Wizzel on December 04, 2015, 03:00:36 PM
I do like these cold war aircraft and vehicles.  Like Kiteman and Councilman, I spent many a long dreary hour learning how to recognise them from different angles and at different distances and decide whether to fill 'em full of lead or not. 
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 04, 2015, 03:21:18 PM
Do you "fill them full of lead" so they are not tail sitters ?????
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Wizzel on December 04, 2015, 08:11:05 PM
If that was a serious question, the answer is NO. I was talking about us old soldiers doing our aircraft and vehicle recognition.  We had to learn the key tanks, APCs, helicopters and airplanes that NATO and the Warsaw Pact forces would be likely to use - so we could identify them as enemy or friendly and thus know whether to shoot them or not.  Or as the Americans would say, shoot them anyway!!!  So, slack track, 5 road wheels, large gap between 3rd/4th and 4th/5th road wheels, dome shaped turret with curved handrails, main gun with fume extractor 1/3 way down the barrel, large IR searchlight to right of main gun, low hull with sloping front and straight splash plate, spare fuel drums at back of hull would tell you it was a T62.  If it was covered in leaves and branches, being able recall these characteristics would hopefully give you enough visible clues to identify it from a Leopard or Chieftain.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 04, 2015, 09:14:35 PM
Bet you can't tell what half my models are supposed to be !!!!
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Kiteman on December 08, 2015, 04:14:46 PM
They are supposed to be models aren`t they?
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 15, 2015, 03:15:49 PM
A few bits stuck together and now the job starts to get them smooth and clean and later to make them all rusty and mucky and disgusting ( sound good fun to me. )

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Kiteman on December 15, 2015, 03:41:15 PM
...and by the way....welcome to the right side!
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 15, 2015, 07:15:40 PM
The only right side Kiteman is ships  - ho ho ho.
Because I am a " ham fisted"  type of modeler and knock things off the bench - i have learnt to drill out those stupid little plastic pips that are the size of pin head and replace them with good solid brass bar , to give strength when fastening tail plane and wings into place.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 16, 2015, 08:27:24 PM
Because the plane will be distressed I have reduced the hydraulic  and also made the wheels flat. The wheel has been stuck onto flat plastic and filler added to make the flat bulged out tyre.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Bigkev on December 16, 2015, 08:40:04 PM
Ha,
Lopsided just like you...............................
And distressed and weathered, just like you...........................

Is this model a personal reflection of you??
Ho Ho Ho!

Only joking, I like the idea of an abandoned and forgotten airplane. It will be an interesting model when finished.

Bigkev

Ps. The 'Right' side is calling.............. 'Feel the Force, Msea Feel the force' 
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 17, 2015, 01:06:22 PM
Lopsided, distressed and weathered is just how I feel a lot of days each month.

Yet again I have to tell you the right side is SHIPS, SHIPS AND MORE SHIPS.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on December 17, 2015, 01:21:55 PM
Ships list don't they?
So where is yours?
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 17, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
It listed so much it sank.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Bigkev on December 17, 2015, 09:44:03 PM
Ah, The 'Walkington Poseidon Effect', I presume.

The 'force' is still calling Msea, for things with wings..............

Bigkev
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 19, 2015, 12:25:49 PM
Back to the wrong side - ho ho ho
More bits added and the wheels are ment to be at different sizes, to make the plane look abandoned and in a bad way. The wood thing is going to be a rack displaying bombs. The base is also going to be abandoned and weed covered with a couple of people looking at the plane.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on December 19, 2015, 12:41:29 PM
I like the cracked concrete effect - very nice.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 19, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Thanks Zak - it was very easy I just dropped the base.
The figures are Airfix WW2 Luftwaffe Personnel who will be changes to modern people looking at the plane in a museum.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Bigkev on December 19, 2015, 09:28:04 PM
Hi Msea,

Nice looking concrete that, very realistic.

I also like the lopsided look of the airframe which matches the pictures in the book. I have it too.

I will be using your build as additional reference to my build of my HPH models Ilyushin Il-28 'Beagle' though in 1/48 next year.

Keep it up Msea, an interesting build.

Bigkev
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Kiteman on December 20, 2015, 04:24:00 PM
you are doing a nice job, I am eager too see it done. When it is done, build another and you will be filled and overcome with the joy and satisafaction that can be gained from the wonderful hobby a modellng aircraft!!!
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Haddock on December 20, 2015, 04:45:22 PM
Yawn.......yawn.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 20, 2015, 08:20:04 PM
Aircraft are made when I am NOT making proper models ( thats ships to you and me )  -- but have FUN making whatever you like, that is what its all about.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Bigkev on December 20, 2015, 08:51:04 PM
Ah,

But you have to admit a certain satisfaction with aircraft models Msea, don't you?

Bigkev
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on December 21, 2015, 07:40:43 AM
It will just PLANE SAILING for him -ha ha.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 24, 2015, 12:06:33 PM
As long as you don't start singing that Rod Stuart song "We are sailing"  -  when I was at sea all my friends used to find it funny to sing that when I was due to go back.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Haddock on December 24, 2015, 03:50:28 PM
We used to sing" hoist up the John B sail I wanna go home" ( more words than that but I can't remember 'em )
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 25, 2015, 11:01:12 AM
Thanks Haddock for the memories  you old sea dog you  - merry christmas and may all your presents be plastic.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 26, 2015, 04:36:06 PM
A bit of colour on the figures. The engine will be enclosed by red wooden shutters - the back ones are sections of wood with a brass handle. The front ones are brass tube filled with a metal bolt ( for weight to bring the plane level ) and again a brass strip made into a handle.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 28, 2015, 12:48:19 PM
Bombs away - first coat of paint.
Engine shutters fitted now for the rest of the plane.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 28, 2015, 08:38:46 PM
Bits of an old paint brush used as grass. The plants are "gaugemaster" for railway trains and seem a little on the large side so will make some smaller ones from wine bottle tops and tea light metal.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Bigkev on December 28, 2015, 09:15:14 PM
Brilliant Stuff Msea,

It looks very realistic, the foliage is inspired. A sign of a good Christmas those wine foils................?
Getting some good tips with the diorama, keep it up.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on December 29, 2015, 08:00:40 AM
I used the same plants for 1/32 and they seemed large for OO (4mm) to me.
Great stuff, your imagination is fantastic.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 29, 2015, 02:43:52 PM
First coat of yellow on the plexiglass canopy. Will be blended in with the weathering -- I hope !!!

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 30, 2015, 07:35:12 PM
Bombs on the rack with foliage added.
After a coat of pledge a bit of weathering to blend them into the idea of an old abandoned plane in the museum.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on December 30, 2015, 07:56:53 PM
Looks OK with figures to give scale to the shot.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on December 30, 2015, 08:00:22 PM
I look forward to seeing the real thing.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Bigkev on December 30, 2015, 08:02:12 PM
That's coming on a treat Msea..............

Looks like your doing the modelling rear-guard duty this holiday period.

I'll report for modelling duty at beginning of 2016, what about the others.................???

Bigkev
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on December 31, 2015, 07:26:28 AM
Yes, so will I, Christmas and all those other things seem to be getting in the way.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on January 29, 2016, 10:07:46 AM
Well back from holiday and illness - so now on with a little modelling.
The base still looks wrong so have started making some grass to fit between the paving blocks. Old tea light metal cut with some very small scissors I found in a craft shop, they are for people who make cards so are a great size for this job. The back metal grass  works out at about 3 feet tall so have made smaller ones, next job prime and paint then add to base.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Haddock on January 29, 2016, 12:51:15 PM
I have to admire your courage.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on January 29, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
Thanks Haddock its not courage its stupidity.
The transfers have been rubbed to make them look distressed. Now to let them dry and then a coat of Klear then on with the weathering.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Wizzel on January 29, 2016, 01:46:32 PM
Nice work sir, I like the idea of rubbing down the markings BEFORE sticking them on.  It's the simple things isn't it? (That's the IDEA not the MODELLER I'm talking about!!).  I would have put the markings on first THN rubbed them down and messed up the finish on the aircraft!
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on January 29, 2016, 03:49:56 PM
Engineers rule - wizzle.
Grass fitted and bent over a bit -- now for the weathering.


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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on January 29, 2016, 05:50:12 PM
Looks good Martin, nice idea for the grass.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Bigkev on January 29, 2016, 08:25:58 PM
Yes, Msea,

I am gonna take a 'leaf' out of your book. a totally unique way of doing the grass...................Thankyou.

Bigkev
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Kiteman on February 02, 2016, 03:27:39 PM
Nice one Martin!
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on February 11, 2016, 06:42:45 PM
Well on with the green oil paint for moss in different areas and then remove about 99% of it.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Kiteman on February 12, 2016, 06:59:01 AM
Starting to look nicely tatty.....Keep it coming!
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on February 12, 2016, 07:26:07 AM
How green is your grass?
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on February 12, 2016, 08:09:47 AM
Its 3 differnt greens - or is that the start of a song - sound like i am changing into Wizzel in the newsletter.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Wizzel on February 12, 2016, 09:20:39 AM
Its 3 differnt greens - or is that the start of a song - sound like i am changing into Wizzel in the newsletter.

Sounds awfully like you're volunteering there Martin!!!
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on February 13, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
I dont think it is a link  to your comments Wizzel about volunteering but I am now adding the excrement from the seagulls on the plane and the bombs.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Pen-Pusher on February 13, 2016, 04:21:15 PM
Like it a lot!! Saw one in Prague many years ago and the bombs not only had green moss around them but rust had replaced almost all the paint? Have you included birds' nests in the u/c wells yet?

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on February 13, 2016, 04:55:50 PM
Not yet pen-pusher - but time will tell.  A bit more rust added.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Pen-Pusher on February 13, 2016, 07:39:23 PM
Looks Good!
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on February 17, 2016, 02:21:34 PM
Beagle fitted to base and it now needs more plant life ( I am not talking about fellow members of the club - Ho Ho Ho ) more wine bottle top used and cut out into a circle. now for more green paint.

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on February 17, 2016, 04:02:21 PM
Impressive, I look forward to seeing the real thing.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Haddock on February 17, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
Have you ever considered doing something clean and undamaged? Just a thought.
I agree with Zak.
Haddock
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on February 18, 2016, 10:18:23 AM
The answer Haddock is NO.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: zak on February 18, 2016, 12:26:52 PM
He likes to keep it weathered.
Do I mean dirty?
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on February 19, 2016, 11:04:12 AM

Posted by: Haddock
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Have you ever considered doing something clean and undamaged? Just a thought.
Haddock


I am not sure what you mean Haddock - just looked some of the last few models

Japanese battleship sunk in deep water
US destroyer sunk in shallow water
Russian Kursk  sailing and sunk
German Graf Spee sunk
German Prinz Eugen with damaged stern and then repaired
My dads tanker after a rough arctic convoy crossing
Sinking London Duck Tours
Vietnam tet offensive with wall blown in
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

Are you telling me they are not all clean and pristine !!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: Haddock on February 19, 2016, 12:07:07 PM
Well in a dirty battered sort of a way, I suppose they are pristine. I take back all I said.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle
Post by: MSea on February 19, 2016, 03:19:57 PM
Well dirty and battered - sounds like how I feel at the moment. Thanks for interest and I MIGHT  try and do a shiney new immaculate model - but dont hold your breath.