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Models => Modelling Projects => Topic started by: Haddock on November 23, 2014, 01:03:15 PM
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This could be the latest project. I have some excellent reference material, courtesy of Peter Cross, the model looks to be accurate for the period.
I expect it to take a while so I may do something else quick to provide a bit of light relief during the build, don't know what yet.
Haddock.
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How does it go.....heart like a dustbin lid!
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Can't believe I've just done this to a £60 kit ( xmas prezzy from all the family ). Not so Kipling with the right tools. Looks better with the decks in place although not glued yet. They look as though they need lifting up about 0.25 mm to come flush with the edge of the hull.
Haddock.
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There is an awful lot of etched brass in the kit.
Keep chopping up the plastic.
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Shims added ( 0.010" and 0.015") and a bit of re-engineering.
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1/350 I assume?
Yes, I can just make it out on the box.
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I wait in wonderment, like a small child looking at that train set in the shop window.
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Hi Haddock,
Its like watching a phoenix rising from the ashe's with your builds.
Total enthrallment all the way.................................!
Bigkev
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You guys do go on a bit sometimes,
Don't hold your breath, this could take some time!
Haddock.
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I thought you were getting faster?
Oh, I may have misspelt faster (think about it).
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The faster I get, the more I seem to find to do! But this is a big kit with lots of detail, some of which I can't resist the temptation to "enhance"
Haddock.
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This is where time just disappears down the plug'ole. As you can probably see, the brass breakwater and the gussets that support it don't fit, I could probably make em fit, but why? the plastic looks fine to me. The brass gussets do match the plastic but I don't see any point in removing the plastic ones to to replace them with brass.
As for the funnel, the detail you see didn't fit either, but you wouldn't expect it to. I have a nasty suspicion that those holes should have some pipes poking through, all eight of 'em, plus maybe the other six smaller ones.
Hey Ho!
Haddock.
Hope nobody minds but I've decided to stick with the plastic breakwater.
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There too much brass about today, that's as well as the muck.
I'm all for leaving plastic if it looks ok.
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Must admit, Trumpeter are pretty good at plastic and some of the brass must be just there for the sake of it. Some of it is in places where the only time you will see it is if you lay on your back and look under the model, not really necessary. There are gussets all over the place but you would need a dentist's mirror so see 'em. I'll fit stuff if you can see it and it's an improvement on the plastic.
Haddock.
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looking awesome as always Tony, or is it Terry or ????
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I never seem to have enough time at club nights to see models properly - a quick snap for the newsletter then move along to let everyone else have a gander - so that's why I enjoy the website so much. It's a real treat to see these ships come together, especially when much of the long hard work isn't evident to the casual viewer.
I've gone on enough...
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Kipling this!
No wonder these thing take so long, I some-times wonder whether it's really necessary. A lot of this brass needs major surgery to get it to fit. If you look closely at the pom-poms you should see that there is a noticeable difference in the height of the guns and ammo boxes and the base when the side-plates are fitted and the trunion that the the gun assembly is supposed to rotate about is completely missing. WEM have goofed, hopefully, you won't notice when painted. Grrrrr.
Haddock.
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I really do admire your Patience, nice work Tony
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You would think they would trial the photo-etch before sales go ahead.
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These days, there is no excuse for bad fitting parts.
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I have to agree with both comments, it weren't cheap neither. coming from a world where quality is top of the list and if it don't conform, you don't get paid, it's annoying.
Haddock.
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I really do admire your Patience, nice work Tony
Nowt to do with patience or even skill, just bloody-mindedness.
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In the time it's taken to do these cranes I'm sure I could have chucked together a little Spitfire...... ......and they're not finished yet. As for the brass vs plastic, which is best, does it really matter and does anybody really care?
Haddock.
Might look better under a coat of paint.
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The brass certainly seems more detailed.
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Must admit, the brass does look better, trouble is, the plastic took about 20 mins to build. The brass represents about an afternoons work, some of this is drying time between adding bits, but still a lot more effort than just using plastic.
Haddock.
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No gain without pain Tony!
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Just spent a couple of hours building the little platform with railings to realize that it was removed in 1941 and my build is the 1943 version......Doh!!!!!
The cross-tree thingy was a bit of a pig, don't know why really, it's big enough.
Must remove the burrs (all 6 of 'em)on the next 16 guns. I was thinking of drilling out the barrels but I'm a wimp.
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You are a much braver man than I am, it all looks too small for me.
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Balls the size of melons, that's me!
After these two beasts, I'm brassed off so back to good old plastic for a while.
The structure you can see is mostly just dry-fitted to fathom out the best sequence of painting and assembly. There's brass ladders and other stuff to go between the decks.
Went into Croppers to abuse Zack and got some Tamiya liquid glue, the bottle with the white top. Its brilliant stuff, somewhere between Revell Contacta and any of the liquid cements. You apply it with a brush, just to one surface, then being the parts together. It doesn't evaporate instantly, so you have time to position things but it doesn't go on thick like contacta does, even using a cocktail stick.
At £2.50 a bottle it looks like good value for money. Get some before he sells out. It doesn't replace the other stuff, just another string to your bow.
The box structure that is part of the tripod as assembled using it.
Haddock.
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Melons eh?
You were always given to exaggeration or something may be wrong with you.
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Ist all metal madness to me.........keep slogging away Tony. The strength of a tree lies in its roots!
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Oh no, not trees again!
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Could this be why sailors stand with their feet apart and walk funny. just a thought.
Melons eh?
You were always given to exaggeration or something may be wrong with you.
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Could this be why sailors stand with their feet apart and walk funny. just a thought.Melons eh?
You were always given to exaggeration or something may be wrong with you.
You are probably right.
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Trumpeter have made a great job of the wooden decks, however, it would seem that during the 1943 major refit, the areas around the 4" guns was plated with steel, probably armour plate, see first picture.
I've attempted to re-create this with 0.010" card. Here's the first attempt, not stuck down yet.
Haddock.
Take my hat off to Zak, this scratch- building lark can be Kipling.
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Hi Haddock,
Very nice job of cutting that plate, with all the circles and cut outs from 1 piece, per side.
No doubt that it'll look really great when properly in place.
Very good, Sir..................................carry on!
Bigkev
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Nice to see you suffering with some real modelling!
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Nice!
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Nice to see you suffering with some real modelling!
I think the fun is just starting, just to add to it, my computer is at it again so if I go quiet, it's in the bin!
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Job jobbed, seems a lot of effort for not much reward. Might have been easier just to paint the offending area steel deck colour. Still, someone would have asked why planks were painted instead of left as bare wood.
Haddock.
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Don't suppose you can call this real modelling but here's a before and after.
Haddock.
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Fiddly stuff.
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Not one of the cradles actually fitted the shape of the boats hulls, they've all had to be modified,
Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
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You sound a little frustrated Tony.
Never mind it will soon be Xmas!
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It would be a good idea if somebody from Trumpeter paid a visit to the Imperial War Museum, perhaps as an Xmas present.
The first thing they would see is a pair of 15 inch gun barrels without a dirty great ring round the muzzle.
I suppose if I was a real modeler, I'd put it right.
Haddock.
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I was there on Sunday, I didn't see any rings but the new WW1 stuff was great.
Those rings on the barrels look a bit odd?
is it some special version or what?
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Hi Haddock,
One thing I can be sure of, is that you will portray your barrels to best of your interpretation of the details available. I know you will do some real deep research before committing them to the model.
Nice work, Haddock!!
Bigkev
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I was there on Sunday, I didn't see any rings but the new WW1 stuff was great.
Those rings on the barrels look a bit odd?
is it some special version or what?
The rings shouldn't be there, that's why I've sanded 'em off. Seems to be a common mistake with Trumpeter kits, you would have thought they would know better by now, still, good business for the after market guys.
Haddock.
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Don't suppose you can call this real modelling, more like muddle engineering!
Haddock.
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Looks like modelling to me!
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Small and impressive is what I would call it.
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Bit like me, eh!
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No, I wouldn't use one of those descriptors for you!
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Fore-topmast parts......... can you see the saw-cut for locating the platform?
Bit of muddle engineering.
Haddock.
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Is that it up near the top, it shows in the enlargement I think.
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That's the one. You can see why when it's assembled. More to go on yet.
Haddock.
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wozayowza!
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Tripod main-mast.
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Tripod mainmast wit topmast fitted. Still more detail to add but I'm not sure how yet.
Haddock.
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one day I too will be that good.....I hope! :)
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I don't think it's all that difficult, just very time consuming. You have to think a lot and wait for stuff to dry before moving on.
'Ave a bash.
Haddock.
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will do!
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Not done much lately but here's the result of a few hours gnashing of teeth, blood, sweat and tears. It will come apart for painting.
If you are in Hull, The Real Model-shop have Tamiya extra thin (green top) on stock at £3.50 a bottle, hurry while stocks last!
Haddock.
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Not done much lately but here's the result of a few hours gnashing of teeth, blood, sweat and tears. It will come apart for painting.
If you are in Hull, The Real Model-shop have Tamiya extra thin (green top) on stock at £3.50 a bottle, hurry while stocks last!
Haddock.
Cropper has now got it in at the same price, bought some this morning.
Called into the Real Model Shop on Saturday - not much in really.
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Looks like it's now back in the UK.
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Seems to be a lot of effort but not much progress.Hopefully, it will all come together in a rush.
Haddock.
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Here's where all the time goes.
This is the main director, the circular platform misses the column by a country mile, the plastic brackets for the topmost scanner are revolting and the etched brass brackets don't conform to the shape of the scanner so it's perched on something made with ten thou card. Getting it to look respectable is a right faff, then of course, there's the time taken farting around to take a decent picture.
Haddock.
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It will all be worth it in the end.
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if there`s one person I know that can put it right, it`s you Haddock :)
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Signal flag lockers, very small.
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Blooming 'eck Haddock,
You must have Superman vision or eat a lot of carrots!!
Bigkev
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Awful lot of effort just to make-fast the ends of the signal halyards, the grid is 4mm square and the brass bar is 0.3mm dia. Now I can see it better on the photo, I can refine them a bit.
Haddock.
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It looks very refined to me, wish I could see that well!
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Very clean Tony, well done
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At the risk of being a boring old fart, here's some sub-assemblies and what they may look like when assembled, sorry about the rubbish photography.
Haddock.
Thanks for your kind comments.
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Hi Haddock,
Looking good as usual. Like to see these type of pictures, they give an insight into the build, the relationship of parts in the build, but overall your skill.
Bigkev
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Very nice!
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Forty-five foot motor-boat, three parts, nice little object, what could be simpler?
There's another one like this and some shorter ones .
Haddock.
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We can't be doing with simple can we, that would be like spoiling the game, so after a bit of work with a scalpel and Swiss files etc, we have the enhanced version. More cleaning up to do and a bit of cunning filling.
Haddock
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Who's a clever boy then.
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Not me!
Here's another instrument of torture, a 35 foot motor-boat. As you can see, the tub that represents the bottom boards has no chance of fitting without bursting through the side of the hull ( there should be three tubs) so I've "enhanced" it with a bit of thinning in places and some plasti-card.
I think it looks a bit better although how I'm going to paint the inside, I'm not sure yet.
Haddock.
Think I need to slosh some paint on something big for a change!
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They say nice things come in small packets.
In the case of your modelling this is very true.
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Thank-you kind sir.
I can't believe I'm going to tell you this but there are days when it would have been better if you stayed in bed. I thought it was time I put some paint on so I washed the hull in warm soapy water, allowed it to dry, washed it with plastic prep, allowed it to dry then proceeded to apply a coat of primer, thinned 50/50 with thinners. I built it up slowly till I got good coverage and put it aside to dry fully feeling very pleased with myself. It was the I realized that I'd used airbrush cleaner instead of airbrush thinners. The only good thing is that it came off easily with more cleaner, a toothbrush and plenty of water. Doh!
Haddock.
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It is nice to know we all make mistakes, if you read modelling magazines things like this never seem to happens. I think they must have problems too. Their builds appear so planned and perfect.
Welcome to the real world. At least it should come off easily.
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At last,the full complement of ships boats, non of the brass fits of course without hacking away some of the plastic, lots in some cases. Rudders yet to add, probably after painting.
Haddock.
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Hi Haddock,
Keep at it mate, looking good so far, if a little sticky at the moment.
Bigkev
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Its nice to see you have launched yourself into it.
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Hi Haddock,
A lot of fun, messing about in small boats.
Bigkev
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Could it be a dinghy? A sailing dinghy?
That's what they call 'em you know.
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Hi Zak,
They don't look too dingy to me.
Only small,l but beautifully formed like their builder.
Bigkev
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Could it be a dinghy? A sailing dinghy?
That's what they call 'em you know.
I think this was from a Coastguard advert from years ago!
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Painting has commenced.
After a bit of research, this seems to be the most accurate depiction of the camo-pattern I can find. As for the colours, the IPMS fine water-line SIG website has a section that has been created by a chap who must have spent months doing the research.He has converted almost all the Naval colours in the world to Vallejo colours, he doesn't give his name so you can't thank him but all the pundits seem to agree that this is about as good as it gets.
So I've got a picture and I've got the paints, all I need to do now is transfer it onto the plastic, trouble is,the model is 560mm long and the picture is 175mm long so all I can hope for is something that looks similar. I'm having bad dreams about masking tape pulling paint off right at the last moment.
Haddock.
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Starboard side done, not as bad as I thought it would be. I think the best method is to rush in with gay abandon and hope for the best. Plenty to go wrong yet and I don't like the colours but they are pretty accurate. Might look better with all the portholes picked out and a bit of a wash to dirty it up a little.
Haddock.
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Zak, the advert you were talking about - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBc02FPSvXc - just noticed what looks like an IPOD on Petunia's lap, then I just noticed it's a re-make!!!!!!!!
I'm really enjoying seeing this coming together Haddock. The amount of minute detail you manage to deal with always amazes me. But I bet it takes more than a minute!!
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That's the one, well done.
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Keep at it Haddock,
Looking brilliant so far!
Bigkev
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Port side done. Lousy picture, poor colour reproduction.
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you have the patience of a saint!
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Not really, I'm just bloody-minded. Plus, being retired, I've got plenty of time and an understanding wife.
Haddock.
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Mmmm, I can only manage the first one, but only when DCOS lets me!
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Does she have a large thumb?
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behind every good modeller is an understanding wife!
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Right now, it doesn't seem appropriate to post any humorous comments.
R.I.P. Geoff.
Haddock.
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Thanks Haddock,
Your sense of loss and compassion is correct. Now is not the time for banter at a time of bereavement and loss.
Geoff will be sadly missed.
Bigkev
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Progress is very slow, hate the colours. The pin wash on the decks took ages and the camo scheme is quite laborious. Nothing glued yet, just sub-assemblies.
Haddock.
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Looking good, those washes bring out the details.
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I agree, this is gonna be another outstanding model when finished!
Bigkev
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Did you mask the lines off for the camouflage or just hand paint them?
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again , super work Tony...Keep it going!
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Did you mask the lines off for the camouflage or just hand paint them?
Each bit is masked, bit of a performance but I can check the pattern before applying paint. I'm using Tamiya masking paper, it's sheets of masking tape stuck to paper so you can draw on it, cut it with scissors then offer it up to the hull/superstructure without it sticking to the plastic.Then it peels off the paper quite easily. It's all done more or less by eye using a picture as reference. You can chuck it away if you get it wrong and no harm is done. I'll try to remember to bring some to the next meeting.
Haddock.
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Hi Haddock,
I would like to see some of that Tamiya masking paper too.
Bigkev
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Did you mask the lines off for the camouflage or just hand paint them?
Each bit is masked, bit of a performance but I can check the pattern before applying paint. I'm using Tamiya masking paper, it's sheets of masking tape stuck to paper so you can draw on it, cut it with scissors then offer it up to the hull/superstructure without it sticking to the plastic.Then it peels off the paper quite easily. It's all done more or less by eye using a picture as reference. You can chuck it away if you get it wrong and no harm is done. I'll try to remember to bring some to the next meeting.
Haddock.
Me too, where did you get it?
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Little cars. I've got plenty if you are in dire need, you get 5 or 6 sheets in a pack. Not long to Huddersfield though.
Haddock.
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Little cars. I've got plenty if you are in dire need, you get 5 or 6 sheets in a pack. Not long to Huddersfield though.
Haddock.
Thanks Tony, I can wait until then.
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anothr "trick of the trade" learned....thanks Tony
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Hi Haddock,
Can you guide me at Huddersfield, with this stuff?
Bigkev
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More likely steer.
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Hi Haddock,
Can you guide me at Huddersfield, with this stuff?
Bigkev
With pleasure. Bear in mind that he may not have any with him on the day but I have plenty, the sheets are a bit smaller than A4.
Haddock.
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Bit more progress.
Haddock.
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Oooooh that looks nice, Haddock!!
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Looks good in the enlarged version - if you just click on the pictures.
I may produce the quantity but you produce the quality.
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That is looking awesome Haddock.........very impressive!
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Thanks.
Bit more progress. Some of this brass just don't fit so a bit of cunning cut and shut is needed.
Don't know which shots look best so I've sent the lot.
Haddock.
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GEIL!
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The camouflage effect looks splendid, all the photos show your skill.
Great stuff as always.
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Hi Haddock,
Blooming marvellous I say!
Look forward to a good look at this one when it appears.
Bigkev
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Hi Haddock,
Blooming marvellous I say!
Look forward to a good look at this one when it appears.
Bigkev
That could be quite some time yet but I'll bring it to the next meeting and waffle for a few minutes.
Bit more progress. Everything you see is fixed in place, for better or for worse.
Haddock.
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How did you do the Camouflage? Was it all taped off inspite of the profiles and all that must be covered...fantastic work!
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Bit of both, some of it is masked, I made masks out of Tamiya masking paper. It's Tamiya tape on backing paper in sheets about A4 size. Some of it's tape and some is freehand. Don't ask me which now cos I've forgotten. I just used whatever I could cope with.
Haddock.
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Bit more progress. I need to learn to take decent pictures. It's now getting to the point where it's very easy to knock bits off, got to think before I move and don't reach over the model. All part of the fun.
Haddock.
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I can even keep am eye on you from Madeira!
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Eh up Haddock,
Big Brother is watching us.................................................... From Maderia.
Bigkev
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It's a busy looking vessel Haddock and you're making a grand job of it.
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Ta!
Here's a bit more progress. Can't believe I bothered to glaze the windscreens.
Haddock.
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It's little touches like that which set your stuff apart though-and even if nobody notices, you know it's there. Just like you would know if you hadn't done it!
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Hi Haddock,
I take my hat off to you sir.
Glazing windows in 1/350th, now that's attention to detail!!
Bigkev
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Just realized that if I blow some matt varnish on now I'm going to have some very dirty windows!!
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It really is looking excellent. My hat is veritabily lifted t you sir!
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Ships boats can be a bit tedious, boat cradles are even worse, especially if they don't fit the boat.
Bit more detail added, pity the ladders are too short, seems to be a common fault and a shim below the bottom of the ladder looks daft so I ain't bothered.
Haddock.
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Fore-topmast in place, no rigging yet. Not as nice a white as Kevin's but it will have to do. According to WEM, white is the correct colour, so there!
Haddock.
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very clean, Haddock, very clean!
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How many ships at one time?
You little tinker.
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Starting with some rigging, I think I must have a "thing" about signal halyards.
Haddock.
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Will the rigging be visible on the finished model or will we have to trust you that it's there? That's some fine work - in all senses of the word!
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You should be able to see it from normal viewing distance, depends on the background.
Haddock.
What you won't see is the bloke in the heads having a dump but he's there , honest!
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What a sad sense of humour you engineers have.
Nice modelling though.
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You should be able to see it from normal viewing distance, depends on the background.
Haddock.
What you won't see is the bloke in the heads having a dump but he's there , honest!
Hope this answers your question. The camera seems to see more than the naked eye. It should look busier with the halyards added. Believe it or not the background is actually white card, so much for accurate colour reproduction.
Haddock.
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It's strange but they look quite thick in the photos whereas on your models thay are hardly visible - where's the bloke?
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amazing work Tony, I am very jealous ;)
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Yes Haddock,
Where's Wally???............................... on the loo?
Bigkev
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It's strange but they look quite thick in the photos whereas on your models thay are hardly visible - where's the bloke?
I think it's the camera deceiving the eye or vice-versa, they don't look so prominent to the naked eye although they are probably over-scale. The rigging material is EZ line, roughly 0.1 dia before stretching, stretched to about twice its free length. If you do the maths, stretching x2 don't mean the diameter is reduced by half, so it's all guesswork really and trying not to put too much strain on the brass-work, which is very fragile.
As for "Wally", it would depend on his rank. The most senior officers would have marble halls with gold plated fittings, the junior officers would have stainless steel jobbies, the ratings would just have pot ones without wooden seats, the engineers would have to put up with a five gallon oil drum with the top chopped off and protected with an old bike tyre to protect the nether regions. All to do with class y'know.
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Now we can fly more flags than you can shake a stick at. Doesn't look as tidy as I would have hoped but it looks better in the flesh so to speak.
Haddock.
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Get those signals aloft.
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Brilliant, Just Brilliant!
Bigkev
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It looks tidy enough to me....fantastic work!
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I guess when they're carrying Army passengers, the facility provided was to hang your backside over the edge and relax - hence "brown jobs?"
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Heck!
And I always thought those brown streaks were rust!
Take it from one who knows, not easy when it's blowing a force ten even on something that size, on a sixty foot fishing boat with about three foot of free-board, it's Kipling. We used to use a small beer barrel.
Haddock.
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Here's a set of parts for the type 285 radar YAGI antenna. There should be four sets and another two with only two sets of dipoles.
I can think of a better description!
Haddock.
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you are a braver man that me!
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Not brave, just daft!!
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Main-mast in place with some rigging on. I need to fill in those halyard pulleys to make 'em look solid.
Haddock.
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I spent ages gazing at the last picture - I love the things like the life boats (assuming that's what they are) and the "feel" of just that area. It's so 'boat like' if you know what I mean. Looking forward to having a good skeg at this when it comes to the club meeting.
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I agree with Wizzel, there is that something that you can`t put your finger on that makes a model "feel" right. Tony manages it with his ships, Zak with his vehicles and Kev with his aircraft. It is, for me, an abstract thing that I cant seem to get. It is the difference between a model and a minature representation of the real thing if you know what I mean. It really is hard to put into words.
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How romantic!
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Phew!
Radar antenna in place. Now I know why I like WW1 stuff, no bloody radar antenna!
Haddock.
Note to Wizzel.
This is where the after-market stuff comes into it's own. I don't think you could re-create this sort of detail in plastic.
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It is looking very impressive.
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Same comment as previously really - a very busy and 'boaty' area in that picture. Seeing the model coming together is where you can also see the value of the aftermarket brass. Plus of course you add so much of your own work what with rigging, drilling out them pom-pom barrels etc. (you ARE going to drill out them pop-pom barrels aren't you ;)).
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....amazing work. I wish, I wish, I wish....
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Here's some ladders, as they come off the fret, then bent with my clumsy fingers.
Then fitted, along with some railings.
The ladders are too short and the railings aren't the right length but I don't think it will be noticeable when the cranes are fitted as the top of the ladders will be covered up by the cranes.
Haddock.
Note to self, tidy up the boat deck rails
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Same comment as previously really - a very busy and 'boaty' area in that picture. Seeing the model coming together is where you can also see the value of the aftermarket brass. Plus of course you add so much of your own work what with rigging, drilling out them pom-pom barrels etc. (you ARE going to drill out them pop-pom barrels aren't you ;)).
I've chickened out, their only 0.5mm dia, must be getting old!
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By Jove, it only just fits!!
All sorts of mini errors with these bits, best I can do with it.
Haddock
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I think this is turning out to be my favourite one of your models so far Haddock. I won't ask how it rates with you!
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I agree, it certainly is very impressive, well done that man!
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Haddock,
Your a blooming marvel man!
Such intricate work, done so brilliantly it takes my breath away.
Question:- Does Mrs B feed you on Valium impregnated carrots? With your level of detail work you surely must be. Still Hands = Valium, Hawk like Eyesight = Carrots
Great work,
Bigkev
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I think this is turning out to be my favourite one of your models so far Haddock. I won't ask how it rates with you!
My favourite is always the one I am on with at the time. When the model is complete, I tend to lose interest in it after a few months.
Kev, my eyesight is lousy and my hands shake like someone that's been on the booze for a week. I've just fathomed ways to get round it. Like Zack, I've also got plenty of time on my hands so I've got no need to rush although, what his output would be like if he really got a move on doesn't bear thinking about
Haddock.
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I think this is turning out to be my favourite one of your models so far Haddock. I won't ask how it rates with you!
My favourite is always the one I am on with at the time. When the model is complete, I tend to lose interest in it after a few months.
Kev, my eyesight is lousy and my hands shake like someone that's been on the booze for a week. I've just fathomed ways to get round it. Like Zack, I've also got plenty of time on my hands so I've got no need to rush although, what his output would be like if he really got a move on doesn't bear thinking about
Haddock.
I think I am a Dreadnaught/ Pre fan really, although this does look nice.
My output is what it is, I am struggling at the moment, busy digging and playing with my rotovator - The back and other bits suffer and so sitting modelling is not as attractive.
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I'm really pleased that I persevered with these. A bit more detail added and a coat of paint and I think they really do look the dogs do-da's. Not often I can say that. I'll put some rigging on when the glue has set.
Haddock.
Shame about the back, keep taking the pills!
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Looking really good.
Even in this small scale I do admire the quality of your work.
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The scale may be small but the quality and presision is immense!
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Just like the Haddock himself - small and precise - well in some things anyway.
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Here's the parts for the type 279 early warning radar, plus the platform that it mounts on. There are two of these, one perched on top of each mast. Very fragile, the brass is 0.1mm thick, you only need to trump in the same room and they bend. At the moment it all seems highly improbable. At least if I screw up, it won't take long!
Haddock.
Note to self. Chop the nubbins off before assembly!
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Flippin' 'eck . That's the first hurdle over. Don't think that the realistic droop is deliberate, it's just a happy accident. I can see now that the platform needs tweaking, the camera come in useful sometimes.
Haddock.
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Yes, I'll be having a good look at this when it sails to Cass Hall!
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you certainly are a glutten for punishment.......hats off to your patience!
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Railings going on.
Haddock.
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Blimey, that picture puts it into perspective!
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So thats how you position them....another master secret out in the open.......nice use of scalpels!!! :)
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Far too sharp that man!
Excellent work Tony.
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Thank you kind sir. I just can't bring myself to put the radar stuff in place yet, I know it's going to get a clout and bend out of shape, I'm on with the water right now.
Haddock.
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Radar in place, ( looks too white) plus other bits and pieces. I don't understand why there are no railings at the edge of the steel decks the support the secondary armament. There's non provided by WEM and I can't see any on my reference material but then there's a lot you can't anyway. It just seems strange that there's no way of preventing the crew from falling overboard while working in that area.
Now I'm confused.
Haddock.
Note the titchy R.D.F loop fore-side of the bridge structure.
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Nice, great looking model.
Is it finished or is there still some fiddling to be done?
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More fiddling and the water to finish. The water is a slow process.
Hadddock
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Modelling it or passing it?
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At my age, both!
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Beautiful work Tony! Can I suggest that the railings are omitted to allow full depression of those guns when slewed over the side.
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That sounds like a good reason to me.
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It was very impressive to see the finished product, travelling box included!
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Thanks, when I get my head round this new computer, I might get some modelling done, at the moment, it seems to have a mind of it's own.
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Agreed with Zak, wonderful to see the finished article. That is DEFINITELY my favourite model on the table ever. Makes it even more special seeing it come together on here. That other lot really don't know what they're missing. I do wish they would make the effort and support the website a bit more!
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Shame that I couldn`t see it in the flesh.......one day. Well done Tony
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Thank-you kind sir, it would be great to see you in the flesh someday.
Haddock.
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I second that!
I was deeply impressed by HMS Queen Elizabeth, a true marvel to behold. What's next I wonder?
Bigkev
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For those who may be interested. If you go to the BBC i-player and navigate your way to " Scotland" there are two programs entitled " Scotland's war at sea ". They are about the war at sea during WW1, there's some news-reel footage of the ships and some computer animation of the battles, could be of interest to Martin, Dave, Terry and anyone else that has an interest in that period. Queen Elizabeth gets a mention. Enjoy.
Haddock.
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Hi Haddock,
Thanks for the heads up. I will have a look at that, I am interested in the historical stuff like that, what I would call 'recent history'
I also like the computer graphics, which if done well give a true sense of what happens, and when and where.
Bigkev