Some bins made, the first photo is some old fashioned household dustbins. The top left one is from shim brass and will be painted to show rust and muck the others are rust painted and hairspray method on top of thin aluminium ( thanks fro the idea Zak - you can put the grooves in unlike the shim brass one). The second photo shows 2 industrial bins first one rusted and the second has had hairspray and some steel colour, soon to be removed