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Models => Modelling Projects => Topic started by: Haddock on July 23, 2019, 03:21:48 PM
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Started this about three weeks ago, I'd no intention of starting it, just opened the box to put some accessories in a safe place, before I could stop myself I was attacking the plastic with great gusto.
Got the kit from Models for Sale for £50, RRP looks to be about £90 so another bargain from these guys.
As usual, the parts count is quite high with lots of etched brass. For some unknown reason, Hobby-boss haven't included any railings for the weather decks, that's for-deck, main-deck and quarter-deck, all the rest are there.
I found a set of railings and some wooden decks to solve the problem from Artwox,
these are a different design to the normal railings and look very nice. The plastic decks are good enough to paint and wash but seen as I've paid for wood, I'll use it.
The fit of plastic to plastic is almost too good, everything needs dry-fitting but that's no bad thing. The plastic is commendably thin where it needs to be although there are some technical errors to correct, the entry to the chain lockers on the for-deck being an example. The wood decks need quite a lot of effort to get a fit and there are some errors between the kit and the wood but nothing insurmountable with some artistic licence.
The brass barrels, from Starling models proved a bit of a problem. you're supplied with resin castings to mount the guns instead of having to modify the plastic parts to fit. My usual superglue refused to work, I resorted to MIG Slo-dry which worked a treat, just goes to show that all super-glues aren't the same.
The instructions are a bit confusing. As is normal with most ships, you get lots of small sub-assy's which build into bigger sub assy's. The instructions dance about from page to page with no logical sequence or identification of each assy, easy to get it wrong.
Here's some pics of where we are now, nearly ready for some paint. before I start painting, I must finish USS Guam, then a Chines Iron-clad which is about 60% done.
Haddock.
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Will enjoy seeing this take shape - do you have to wear a beret while you are working and ask for your drinks in a French accent ????
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Hi Msea,
Perhaps not, but I bet in between modelling shifts, he does go for a 'oui-oui'.
Other than lowering the tone with the joke(perhaps not!)
It looks like it is going to get the masterful 'addock' build again.....
We, watch, learn and decide if the thumb screws would work this time!
Bloomin' marvellous stuff
Cheers,
Bigkev
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Will enjoy seeing this take shape - do you have to wear a beret while you are working and ask for your drinks in a French accent ????
O La La!
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The only French that I remember in "JE FRAPPE LE GARCON" accompanied by a stinging sensation at the back of the head.
I did get my revenge in the end.
Haddock.
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See what a classical grammar school education did for you.
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I can tell the time in Latin too!!
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A very useful skill, especially for an ex-engineer.
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Came in handy at sea when the ships clock had Roman numerals.
I think I was the only one who knew what time it was. Some of the skippers
never knew it was bed time so we ended up staying awake for days.
Haddock.
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CATAPULT.
It's stuff like this where all the time goes. The brass is 0.!5mm thick, relief etched to enhance the detail so very thin and fragile.
The pictures probably speak for themselves but you've got both sides of the brass, first bend with some scraps of plasti-card to make life easier, second bend, then third bend which is completed by fingers.
Then we have the final assembly with bits and bobs added.
I'm not convinced some of this is correct. The walkways look wrong and I think there should be some more railings.
If I'd followed the instructions, which are very vague, most of this wouldn't have fitted together.
As it is, I'll just have to live with it. Probably won't be noticeable under a coat of paint.
Haddock.
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Masterful!
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Masterful!
More like the master at work
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THIS MODEL IS NOW BACK IN IT'S BOX TILL I'VE FINISHED OTHER STUFF.
Haddock.
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Ooohhh you little French devil you - so masterful and decisive - hohoho - yes I know "I will pay for that in the future"
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Having finished decorating and all the other little tasks I've been promising to do for months, I thought I'd better resurrect this. Lots of sub-assy's to go at so watch this space.
Haddock.
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Watching this space !!!!
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Keep watching!!
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Progress at last!
Although the plastic detail is exquisite, there seem to be lots of errors, non insurmountable with some artistic licence.
The wood decks look nice but don't fit, lots if trimming to get a fit. The positions of some of the detail fitted to the decks will be governed by the wood, not the plastic but only I will know so does it matter?
The model has been primed with Tamiya light grey primer in a rattle can, I like this stuff, in spite of the pong which hangs about for days, it's dry enough to mask in 30 mins.
The hull colour is Vallejo game colour wolf grey, it looks a bit too blue to me but I'm not going to change it now.The foredeck is model-colour French mirage blue, lighter than deck blue, but it looks more to scale.
Boot topping is Tamiya Nato black and the antifouling is AK interactive anti fouling colour.
Just a few pics to give a flavour.
Haddock.
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Some dry-fitting done ready to strip down and paint.
Quite a bit of work to get decent fits.
Note the sneaky ladders in the passageway, nearly forgot 'em.
Haddock.
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Lovely work Tony. What is the detail that runs around the ship at the top of the hull sides?
Francis
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It's the de-gausing cable.
Haddock.
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I was hoping to be painting the superstructure by now but a little voice said just check for assembly snags and traps for the unwary, glad I did, I could have ended up in trouble later on.
The aircraft handling crane was a swine, the brass could have been much easier to use if the hand-rails and ladders were in one piece, then folded to get the sides upright as is the usual case. The jib needed a brass rod pivot added as the plastic effort was just too small and fell through it's intended gap. The pulley is a generic item, could have done to be a bit longer to make the jib less upright but it's the longest I could find, another 2mm would have been ideal.
The yards were vey fiddly to get them to look right and make a strong joint, they're pinned with
0.5mm brass rod and secured with Araldite. Hopefully, they won't fall off when under load with rigging.
The launches are very nicely done, just needed the deck to hull joint filling and cleaning up. I've added some generic portholes.
All the pulling boats need is cleaning up before painting.
Haddock.
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Hi Haddock,
Marvellous stuff that.
Bigkev
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Bit more "stuff" done.
First pic is of the instructions for some sort of antenna that mounts right on top of the forward superstructure.
The assembly should consist of two plastic parts and three etched brass parts, the plastic comes into the " you have to be joking" category. I've replaced all the plastic with brass tube ( 0.4, 0.6 and 0.8mm dia), the only bit I've retained is the right-angle piece, drilling a 0.4mm hole in the short leg was tricky.
Next up is a short mast that mounts on top of the after superstructure. The starfish carries some sort of rigging, probably aerials so I thought it would be prudent to reinforce the arms with some 0.25mm brass rod.
Last but not least, boat handling cranes. the brass ladders are the same width as the jib from about halfway up to the top, I've added some 0.25 microstrip to fix the handrails to, this could have been made a lot easier had the ladders and handrails been produced in one piece with the side folded up as is normal with this type of thing.
The whole assembly needed moving aft to clear the superstructure and the top of the jib lifted on it's mounting to clear the motor launch. This will have to be fitted before the cranes as it's not possible to fit the cranes first and then the boats.
Having had a good moan, this aspect of modelling is one that I rather enjoy, so onwards and upwards as they say.
Haddock.
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You "moan" never in a month of Sundays have I heard you do that - hohoho
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Hi Haddock,
Don't know what your 'moaning about', it looks very easy to do...…
Only joking!
A lot of care, thought and effort gone into those bits. Wouldn't do for a 'ham-fisted Oaf' like me.
In awe at your skill, yet again...!
Cheers,
Bigkev
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Nearly a disaster here folks. I thought it would be a good idea to fit a piece of sprue to the antenna assembly, something to get hold of for painting and adding railings and ladders.
Worked fine for building the assembly, made life a lot easier, the I realized that the hole I'd fitted the sprue into was meant to accept the spigot on the next level down. The sprue is glued in place with Revell Contacta,
nice strong joint, so removing it was out of the question.
You can see the "engineering" solution.
In pic no1 we have parts 1 and 2, sprue in place. Fortunately I had some 3mm, just the right size to fit part 2, with the 3mm spigot replaced with a 3mm hole.
Pic 2 shows the sprue cut to a suitable length and part 2 modified with a 3mm hole, parts 1a and 2a.
Pic 3 shows all the parts together, mounted on part no3.
The whole lot fits onto the bridge which carry the brass yardarms.
Note to self, measure three times, cut once and think before you dash in with gay abandon.
Haddock.
Don't know why the last two shots are as they are, they're the right way up in the picture files, you'll just have to turn your head round!!
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Just think NOBODY will know what you have done - some will not even see it !!!!
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Just think NOBODY will know what you have done - some will not even see it !!!!
Only the wise ones Msea, only the wise ones!
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Just think NOBODY will know what you have done - some will not even see it !!!!
Only the wise ones Msea, only the wise ones!
So, none of us then!
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Bit more fiddly stuff.
Haddock.
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Can be tedious this masking lark.
Still, I suppose it's worth it.
Haddock.
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Here's the start of an interesting little project. A breakwater around "A" turret.
It's all in etched brass. The black lines are actually slots laser-cut into the wood, right through.
I've got the vertical member in place as you can see. There are now 33 gussets to fit, I need a plan.
If you look closely at the RH side of the last shot, you should be able to see the vertical etched lines etched into the inner face of the vertical bit to assist in placement, they all match. Clever stuff by Artwox.
Haddock
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More bits and pieces added, some of which you may never see.
Thank goodness for Tamiya masking tape, super stuff.
Haddock.
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Are you just a saint in this life, or have you been the same in all your other incarnations - hohohh
Still its excellent work and something I try to emulate but only get to 38% - but I still have FUN doing it.
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More bits and bobs added.
The bent brass rod in the first shot is for the signal halyards to be made fast to. Port holes etc picked out with suitable coloured washes.
Last shot shows brass rod painted and some railings added.
Haddock.
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More bits and bobs added.
The bent brass rod in the first shot is for the signal halyards to be made fast to. Port holes etc picked out with suitable coloured washes.
Last shot shows brass rod painted and some railings added.
Haddock.
Hi Haddock,
Just love the way you make it sound so matter of fact,
Great work, as always.
Bigkev
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Thankyou kind sir.
What you may have noticed is that some of the parts look a different colour, they aren't.
It was a bit disconcerting at first but after the paint has cured, together with a coat of Klear, the paint darkens quite noticeably. I've got used to it now.
Haddock.
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Some searchlights and railings added.
Haddock.
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More railings and ladders added, plus some very nice ladders with handrails.
Haddock.
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Why do yours look like railings and ladders and mine just look like a bit of badly bent brass stuck on at strange angles ????????
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Another lovely looking model.
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Why do yours look like railings and ladders and mine just look like a bit of badly bent brass stuck on at strange angles ????????
Must be one of life's mysteries, like the Bermuda Triangle or why does your toast always fall marmalade side down!
Haddock.
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Some ships boats and handling cranes added.
Haddock.
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Hi Haddock,
Coming together nicely, now starting to look like a warship.
Keep up the great work.
Bigkev
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Looks like the plan worked. Trouble is, some of this will be hidden.
Haddock.
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C'est Magnifique!
Bigkev
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Lots of brass, no comments needed.
Haddock.
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Hi Haddock,
I could say 'Bent and Twisted' like the builder...…!
But seeing as I'm sharing a room with you, it's not a good idea.
A 'Black Eye' in the middle of the night, not a good outcome...!
Instead can I say, looks great, as usual from a master builder, (see I do grovelling too.....!)
Bigkev
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Bit more brass added. The railings on the platforms on the bridge structure are a tad too long to conform to the correct shape, something that crops up from time to time. Might look better with some thick paint to hide the joint.
Haddock.
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More brass...………. painted and fitted.
Haddock.
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Even more!
Haddock.
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The more I see your excellent etch brass work the less I wish to start mine.
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You need to think "if that silly old fart can do it, so can I".
Haddock.
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You need to think "if that silly old fart can do it, so can I".
Haddock.
I'm glad you said that!
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Bit more done.
The curved rails are etched brass being treated in the Haddock blacking bath.
They fit on the marks that are printed on the wood decks.
Finally fitted.
Last two shots are part of the bridge structure, the antenna were a bit challenging to bend and fit,
don't look bad from a distance.
Haddock.
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It has all been said already.
Superb modelling.
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It has all been said already.
Superb modelling.
Hi Haddock,
I have never seen rails fitted to ship like that before.
Wonderful stuff, keep it coming.
Bigkev
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Starting to look busy, lots to do yet.
Haddock.
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Ooo, La, La, Monsuier Haddock,
Eeet is looking very nice.....
Trebien!
Bigkev
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Ooo, La, La, Monsuier Haddock,
Eeet is looking very nice.....
Trebien!
Bigkev
Didn't realize you spoke French.
In my case, shouldn't "monsuier! be "monsewer"
Le 'addock.
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Very European.
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Polite as always!
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Polite as always!
'Wat ees Always?'
Not sure said mentioned item is correct....?
I think more 'Say as I think!' 'Eeeh Bah Gum Lad' from French to Yorkshire in a simple move...!
Still in English..... A very nice looking model!
Bigkev
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Excellent -- lots done while I have been skiving
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More stuff added.
Haddock.
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Bit more progress. It's stuff like this that runs away with time.
These are the port-side quarter-deck railings. Hopefully, you can see that the top rail is flat and wider
than the stanchions and lower rails.
First shot is the top rail for the starboard side, it's 0.6mm wide with a groove relief etched into it's lower surface.
The idea is to bend the rails to suit the groove in the upper rail and stick it all together, bit fiddley.
The phrase "it'll look better with a coat of paint" springs to mind.
Next job will be to cut out some gaps in the bottom two rails to accommodate the fairleads!
Haddock.
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Hi Haddock,
Did this one ever get 'launched' from the Brookland Road shipyard??
Bigkev
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It did although the sea needs finishing.
As soon as I get the chance I'll take one or two pictures.
Haddock.
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The model looks excellent particularly the brass work. It looks very intricate.
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Thanks Haddock,
I thought I had missed the final part in this build...
Cheers,
Bigkev
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Hi Haddock,
Did this one ever get 'launched' from the Brookland Road shipyard??
Bigkev
It did, it won the Feb comp.( it was pointed out that it only got a sympathy vote)
Look on "Models on the table" for Feb,
there's a better picture than I could take.
Haddock.