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Title: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 16, 2021, 10:16:18 AM
           Started this at the last play-day, some of you may remember it.
I just brought it along for something to do but I've been nibbling away at it since then.

           First thing to do with any Trumpeter ship kit is to check for historical errors, I invested
in a Profile Morskie book which have a good reputation amongst ship modellors for accuracy, in
this instance, the kit looks to be a good'un. I also have the Osprey book "British light cruisers 1939-1945"
and have visited the Brit modeller forum where there is a superb build and some very useful pics
which are difficult to come by on the internet. It's worth a look chaps if you are interested.

           The ship was commisioned just too late to enter service in WW1 but had a busy career in the
period leading up to WW2. In 1939, she was converted into an AA Cruiser, this is how it is depicted
in the kit.

           She took part in Dunkirk and shortly after was deployed to the Mediteranian and was sunk by German
bombers in 1942. Between Dunkirk and her deployment to the Med, she was painted in a disruptive camoflage
scheme. This is the one I'm hoping to use.

            Some pics to follow showing what I have to go on for the camo scheme, look carefully at no's 4 and 5, you should
notice that the pattern isn't the same, as one is a photo, that has to be the one to recreate. A closer look at the photo's sees
that the pattern isn't the same port and starboard.

                                                                    If in doubt, ask.

Haddock
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bob C on November 16, 2021, 10:22:45 AM
Another master piece in the making.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: zak on November 16, 2021, 10:36:34 AM
Great research, get those details right.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 16, 2021, 11:30:08 AM
The more you read, the more confusing it becomes, next exiting bit is deciding what the actual colours were!!
And are the photo's I'm using really Calcutta, there were other ships in the class in the Med at the same time,
all with camo schemes!!
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: zak on November 16, 2021, 12:19:50 PM
The joys of modelling!
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: MSea on November 16, 2021, 01:32:11 PM
What ever scheme you use or don't use it will end up another masterpiece.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: chriswil42 on November 16, 2021, 01:48:00 PM
It'll keep you busy Mr Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 16, 2021, 04:59:33 PM
                                            You're all very kind (should've gone to specsavers)

                  Starboard side painted, I'm reasonably happy my pattern matches the photo, if not, I ain't going to change it now.

             The apertures cut into the deck should let me glue from inside the hull, less chance of making a mess with glue.

      As for the colours. During my research, I came across the phrase "probable colours could be black, AP507A and AP507C.
looking at the picture in the Osprey book, I've opted for AP507A, B5 and AP507C.
              AP507A is RN standard dark grey.
             AP507C is RN standard light grey.
             B5 is a grey blue (or blue grey)
            This gives three distinct tones as opposed to colours.
       The reasoning behind this is:- look at the photo of the port side, there are obviously more ships behind Calcutta, I don't
know what they are but if you count tripod masts, pole masts and funnels, there could be " more than two". Behind the bow
of Calcutta is the bow of another ship, it looks to be the same colour as the dark patch right on the bow of Calcutta. As I've
never seen any record of RN ships painted black, I have to assume that it's the darkest colour,  AP507A, which agrees with
the Osprey picture. (the Osprey picture is No 5)
          That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Haddock.





Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bigkev on November 16, 2021, 07:18:16 PM
Hi Haddock,
That is phenomenal work and research.
Another masterpiece from the Brookland Shipyard.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: chriswil42 on November 17, 2021, 12:10:36 PM
Camouflage looks the business.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: cph64 on November 17, 2021, 04:09:19 PM
Are you going to use some of the 3D printed guns you showed us?
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 17, 2021, 04:22:45 PM
Are you going to use some of the 3D printed guns you showed us?
Probably.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 17, 2021, 04:39:49 PM
                                          Port side done, not as straight forward as the starboard side.

          Humour me, If you measure the photo on the waterline, then measure the model on the waterline, do the maths, you'll end up with a factor to use to transfer the pattern on the photo to the model.

         This is fine if the photo was taken cemtral and square to the ship, in this instance, it ain't, so nowt makes sense mathematically.
It looks as though the picture was taken from the forward end wth the camera turned to get the whole ship in shot. There are some steam
pipes running up the front of the after funnel, they wouldn't be so prominent if viewed from the side. The ship is around
450ft long so the effect of perspective is quite pronounced. Being an old photo, it's not all that easy to see and looks to be marked or stained in some places which kids you into thinking there's something there that really isn't.

           Rathe than try to do something clever, I thought it best to dash in with gay abandon and just try to make the model look like
the photo best I could.

           I'm happy with the result, it looks OK to me so it will have to do. If it's wrong, it'll have to be our little secret.
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: chriswil42 on November 18, 2021, 02:08:57 PM
Looks very good Tony. Wouldn't know it is not entirely correct.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bigkev on November 18, 2021, 08:18:57 PM
What ever you decide on Haddock, I'm sure it will look stunning.
Just slosh it on with gay abandon!
Bigkev
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 24, 2021, 11:24:40 AM
Camo scheme carried over to the superstructure, lots of detail painting done, a slow process.
The pictires probably speak for themselves.
Nothing glued in place above the main weather deck.
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: MSea on November 24, 2021, 12:57:43 PM
Looking GREAT - but wait for the rivet counters to tell you that you have the line at the wrong angle or the colour  should be a shade or hue different to the one you have used.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 24, 2021, 01:51:27 PM
Jut let 'em try!!!!!
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: MSea on November 24, 2021, 02:15:37 PM
HoHoHoHo look out rivet counters
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: chriswil42 on November 25, 2021, 12:46:11 PM
Looks good Tony.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 29, 2021, 04:15:49 PM
Starting to look busy.
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: zak on November 29, 2021, 05:34:18 PM
That's a very tidy workspace.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bob C on November 29, 2021, 07:45:00 PM
It looks good whatever the maths.

Bob c
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: cph64 on November 30, 2021, 09:38:38 AM
All the paint in the right place, not like my cutting mats, doh!!!!
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on November 30, 2021, 12:09:42 PM
That's a very tidy workspace.
The new me!
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bigkev on November 30, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
Apart from Brown sauce today.........
Bigkev
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: zak on December 01, 2021, 07:43:21 AM
Apart from Brown sauce today.........
Bigkev
Don't tell Mrs Haddock!
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on December 01, 2021, 08:37:49 AM
Apart from Brown sauce today.........
Bigkev
Don't tell Mrs Haddock!
I gave up trying to hide things ages ago.
I always get found out!
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: MSea on December 01, 2021, 01:15:39 PM
I agree  Haddock - "she who must be obeyed" seems to know even before I do it
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on December 01, 2021, 04:58:17 PM
Starting to fit railings, some of the bending may be a bit ambitious.
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bigkev on December 01, 2021, 07:57:58 PM
Could we rename you as 'Our Uri Geller', Haddock.
The way you can make straight etch brass into such complicated shapes, leaves me in awe.
Bigkev
 
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: chriswil42 on December 02, 2021, 01:11:00 PM
Looks like very delicate work there Mr Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on December 03, 2021, 09:12:37 AM
                    Some progress made, the pictures probably speak for themselves.
Nothing too dramatic fixing the railings, bit of re-engineering neede here and there.
              There are places where I feel there should be railings but non are provided in the kit
so I've just added some generic stuff.
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: zak on December 03, 2021, 09:44:05 AM
Will there be railings around the rear deck as well?
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on December 03, 2021, 11:32:12 AM
       All the weather decks have railings but they're not included in the kit which is a bit mean of Trumpeter.
Lots more small detail to go on before the railings are added, probably the final parts to go on.
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: chriswil42 on December 03, 2021, 01:15:39 PM
Looks magnificent.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bigkev on December 03, 2021, 05:31:20 PM
All looks shipshape as always, from the Haddock Shipyard.
Bigkev.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: cph64 on December 05, 2021, 08:34:23 AM
Another fantastic build, well done.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bob C on December 05, 2021, 07:13:20 PM
Looking good
.
Bob c
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on December 09, 2021, 03:50:46 PM
Davits and ships boats added lus a few other bits and bobs.
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: MSea on December 09, 2021, 04:00:29 PM
Looking great
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Haddock on December 14, 2021, 02:39:14 PM
Almost there chaps, just a few bits and bobs to add, some dirt but not much,
then setting on a base with water, some time later.
The pictures probably speak for themselves.
Haddock.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: zak on December 14, 2021, 02:42:25 PM
Another great model to add to the growing collection.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: Bigkev on December 14, 2021, 05:57:49 PM
Hi Haddock,
Another superb clean and tidy build. The finesse of the build and detail is incredible.
Bigkev
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: chriswil42 on December 18, 2021, 10:42:42 AM
I admire the detail you manage to put into your ships Tony. If my modelling was only half as good.
Title: Re: THE LIGHT CRUISER HMS CALCUTTA IN 1:350 BY TRUMPETER
Post by: cph64 on December 18, 2021, 03:25:35 PM
Yes they're incredible. You think they're complete then he adds more and more!!!!!