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Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« on: April 17, 2021, 09:08:17 AM »
Next research project now under way.
Reading in the new Fine Scale Modeler magazine and saw the Takom 1/72 scale model of the turret from the Japanese battleship Yamato.
Now that got me thinking (yes Zak its a BAD habit I have)  - when I was in Leningrad/St Petersburg a few year ago saw this from the coach and was able to get a quick snap as we passed it.  Next job is to find size, shape, what is the building in the background and what is the Russian lettering on the building and above the door.
Just for Haddock - she was a heavy cruiser called Kirov  8,800tons with 9 x 180mm guns in 3 triple turrets built 1935-9 with help from the Italian firm Ansaldo - now off for a coffee all this thinking has got my brain in a twist - hohoho
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2021, 12:49:01 PM »
This should be an interesting project.
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2021, 01:02:55 PM »
Looks interesting.
Wonder if they are still useable?
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2021, 04:43:10 PM »
If the people who put it together are like most of the Russian engineers I have met - then I think it will be in full working order Zak -- shall we go and test it  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2021, 12:55:59 PM »
The writing say's 'Martin Crawley Institute for Obscure and Outlandish Projects including Hacking Good Kits to Bits to make Something Different'.

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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2021, 02:44:40 PM »
The writing say's 'Martin Crawley Institute for Obscure and Outlandish Projects including Hacking Good Kits to Bits to make Something Different'.
Just ODD would suffice!
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2021, 06:19:00 PM »
Next research project now under way.
Reading in the new Fine Scale Modeler magazine and saw the Takom 1/72 scale model of the turret from the Japanese battleship Yamato.
Now that got me thinking (yes Zak its a BAD habit I have)  - when I was in Leningrad/St Petersburg a few year ago saw this from the coach and was able to get a quick snap as we passed it.  Next job is to find size, shape, what is the building in the background and what is the Russian lettering on the building and above the door.
Just for Haddock - she was a heavy cruiser called Kirov  8,800tons with 9 x 180mm guns in 3 triple turrets built 1935-9 with help from the Italian firm Ansaldo - now off for a coffee all this thinking has got my brain in a twist - hohoho
Thought this was a photo of Mr Haddocks house.    BIGA BOOMA!!
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2021, 07:05:11 PM »
The writing say's 'Martin Crawley Institute for Obscure and Outlandish Projects including Hacking Good Kits to Bits to make Something Different'.
You may be correct with that Chris but it will all be scratch build so "no models will be harmed in the making of this one" - hohhohoho
Have found some good images on the internet and also found a scale drawing of the turret in one of my books " Soviet Warship Development" by Siegfried Breyer - so at the moment am getting the size of all parts of the turret in 1/72 scale sorted.
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2021, 05:47:01 PM »
Another unique Msea 'Project'.
Will it be set in a diorama??
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2021, 01:17:50 PM »
Yes Kevin will try to replicate the buildings behind the turrets and the wall/floor area - did you notice the ammunition in the slots in the wall ???
Now I need help (yes Zak you have said that on many occasions) the turret will be about 130 x 97 x 49 mm in size - should I make a top and bottom plate with a box between them and fill in the outer area with filler OR should I make the turret from individual layers of 2mm acrylic and shape them down to size - decisions decisions decisions.
For your information Chris the building behind the turrets is not  the "MCIOOP" its the "College of Shipbuilding and Applied Technology". If I do the figures playing about in the space, will put one clown sitting on the barrel of the gun and pretending he is  :o :o :o :o :o now who will I make that one look like  ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2021, 08:10:59 PM »
Decided that 1/72 scale will be too large so will it be 1/144 or 1/200 scale.
The base size of the turret would then be (66 x 45 x 24)  or  (47 x 32 x 17) at the moment think 1/144 scale will be best to make the building and area around the turrets. Before you ask Haddock decided that 1/350 scale would be too small.
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2021, 08:55:05 PM »
Like me, smaller the scale the more the challenge.
1/144th will give a great representation of this project.
Well done!
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2021, 09:33:45 PM »
Top , bottom and center plate  made the height will be 21mm at the front of the turret sloping up to 25mm at the back. then making the sides slope from 35mm at the top down to 45 at the bottom - think this will need lots of coffee and naughty nautical language to get it correct
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2021, 08:03:09 AM »
Yes, but you have made a start.
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Re: Soviet 180mm Triple turrets from the Kirov
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2021, 08:30:08 AM »
Yes, but you have made a start.
Is that on the model, the coffee or the naughty nautical language ???????
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