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Models => Modelling Projects => Topic started by: MSea on May 11, 2020, 01:11:34 PM
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Well the next project is an old model from the stash that got put together and never painted - amazing what you find under lockdown rules.
Decided to update the WW2 tank to a converted one as a guard at a road block, will add some bar-armour to protect it against RPG rounds and put it in situ at a road block some were in Africa. Got Nathan at Mighty Lancer to get me the Trumpeter "African Freedom Fighters" in 1/35 scale to go with the tank. Before you ask Chris - NO ZOMBIES at the moment, but don't hold your breath.
Will put the tank under an awning of leaves for shade with table,chairs and a fridge next to it and have the people getting to their feet as somebody approaches the barrier. Having worked/been in Africa a lot during the 1970 and 1980 era, have had to go through many such road blocks so it will bring back many happy memories ??
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Get on with it then.
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Finished by 4.00pm?
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That's as much of the stbd side bar-armour I have done.
Before you ask Zak, yes I have remembered that the tank has doors on the side for entry/exit so will have swing panels on the bar-armour as well. Now off for a coffee and a rocky road
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Part-timer!
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Just back from having Rocky road/coffee and a long fast walk outside (keeping 2m away from everybody - or is that people keeping away from me ?) now back to do some more bar-armour before tea.
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Africa, road blocks, check points and happy memories. Isn't there a disconnect there? Whatever should make an interesting fresh approach to a military diorama.
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No disconnect at all - when we can have meetings again will tell you some hair raising stories about my time in the Merchant Navy.
Dry run with the side -armour fitted to the tank side.
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Second side of bar-armour made and the opening door on the port side added. Decided if it was made in the shut position nobody would know it opened , so made it partly open as shown. the hinges are small sections of angle bar glued on the edges and then glued together.
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Hi Martin, did this bar armour actually get used in real life? Never seen it before.
Chris
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It was used in my head and that were the model came from - ????
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Hi Msea,
That type of armour has been used in more recent times. Though it is more of a 'shredding' type of protection for anti tank missile projectiles. Often seen on British 'Warriors'.
My understanding is the idea was to shred the projectile before it hit the actual vehicle surface/armour and reduce its effect.
Probably Councilman or Wizzel might have a better, more correct explanation.
Cheers,
Bigkev
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Until we get the correct answer from Councilman or Wizz - I was under the impression the bar -armour detonated an RPG round at a distance from the main armour thereby lessening the blast effect on the main armour.
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Hi Msea,
Not being an authority on the subject, I can only say what I interpreted the role of the additional armour and how what I described was intended to work.
Bar armour might work on a different basis to my anti - vehicle description.
Cheers,
Bigkev
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We will have to wait for the gruesome twosome to get the correct answer
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Something similar was used by the US in Vietnam. They had chicken wire on the windows of the buses they used as a defence against hand grenades.
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I actually thought the bar armour was to force the rpg projectile to explode before getting anywhere near the main skin thereby no penetration.
Chris
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That is 2 of us Chris - but what do we know ?????
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A coat of rust and then some hairspray. Decided to give it a two tone green and brown pattern - now why did I choose these colours, because I had been given some Vallejo Model Air paints from Haddock and guess what ???? I had these 2 colours - hohoho so much for long term planning.
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Some paint removed in patches and edges, to show the rust underneath.
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Very effective.
Haddock.
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Coming along nicely. It's the 'What's inside your head' part that worries me, lol!!!
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And me!
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I think you have a strange view about me - hohohohoho
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To create the shade hut for the tank - 4 post are now fastened to the base and a small cut made in the top of each.
Two cross members have been made to fit on top of the posts and metal bars to join them, when fitted together banana/palm leaves will be on top of this
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To create the shade hut for the tank - 4 post are now fastened to the base and a small cut made in the top of each.
Two cross members have been made to fit on top of the posts and metal bars to join them, when fitted together banana/palm leaves will be on top of this
Hi Msea,
What technique/media will you use for the Banana/Palm leaves?
I might need some future guidance from the expert.
Cheers,
Bigkev
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All the solid parts of the hut are now made/solid and in place.
The banana/palm leaves will be made from some thin foil and thin brass rod. When making them will put a set of photos on line when I make them.
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Hi Msea,
I'll keep my eyes peeled for the construction techniques on their building.
Cheers,
Bigkev
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Like all good road blocks , I will need to make a fridge to hold the cold beer.
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well that's a different M3, looks good.
Bob c
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I can hear it now - Haddock shouting "measure twice and cut/drill once".
When laying out the base I used the tank model to get the correct size for the hut - but forgot I was adding bar-armour on each side, so the hut is not wide enough for the tank. Have now re-drilled for 2 of the posts and am making changes to the roof cross bars, so that they now fit. If nothing else it will have given you lot a laugh at my expense.
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Tit, tut, call yourself an engineer!
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No a professional bodger
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New roof supports made and also a table and fridge
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Careful with the use of the term Bodger. Traditionally they were skilled craftsmen who formed an important first stage in the making of most timber furniture. This doesn't seem to be the case here, more likely the domain of a metric architect and an imperial builder disconnect.
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Careful with the use of the term Bodger. Traditionally they were skilled craftsmen who formed an important first stage in the making of most timber furniture. This doesn't seem to be the case here, more likely the domain of a metric architect and an imperial builder disconnect.
You are being very polite.
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Careful with the use of the term Bodger. Traditionally they were skilled craftsmen who formed an important first stage in the making of most timber furniture. This doesn't seem to be the case here, more likely the domain of a metric architect and an imperial builder disconnect.
No Francis I am using the Merchant Navy definition of the term --- That is a person who makes something that works and does the job, without the correct tools , correct materials or any instructions and usually has somebody shouting down the phone that this is costing $10,000 per hour delay or is saying you have 10 minutes then I will have to get the tug attached to the 300.000ton tanker so we don't run onto the rocks with all that would cost.
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A start made on turning an oil drum into a BBQ.
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Thanks for your explanation Martin however this does not look like a maritime project, therefore my case rests.
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Are we playing semantics Francis -- also you have not seen the person who is going to cause problems at the check point, so it could be a maritime subject -!!!!!
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Some more work done on the SMEG fridge and the BBQ
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Ok Martin I'll watch and wait.
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Hmmmm... Very interesting. Looking forward to the story behind this one.
Andy.
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A start made on the banana leaves - it is just a bit of foil from a wine bottle and a bit of wire for the leaf rib.
When solid will cut to shape and put cuts across the leaf as in normal life and colour it shades of green.
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A start made on the banana leaves - it is just a bit of foil from a wine bottle and a bit of wire for the leaf rib.
When solid will cut to shape and put cuts across the leaf as in normal life and colour it shades of green.
Aha,
All is becoming clearer on the foliage. Sir, can you continue to give details and pitfalls of the construction.
This build will help me in my next project.
Cheers,
Bigkev
PS. I have a spare ruler, if you need one.... ho,ho,ho
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Will do Kevin - first thing I have found out is, DO NOT cut the leaf to shape and then try to fit the rib into the middle of it.
Best to make it large and then cut down to shape - its a shame you will have too use extra foil from wine - so lots extra to drink so you will have the extra foil.
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Ive got lots of wine foil and still collecting!
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I don't drink wine or beer any more (only rum) but at least "she who must be obeyed" keeps me in foil - hohoho
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Well from right to left - foil and wire, second one it has been cut to a leaf shape, third some cuts across the leaf caused by wind damage and finally a base coat of green on the leaf.
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Rust added to the fridge and BBQ
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You do seem to like a rusty fridge - is that your foible?
Martin and his rusty fridge?
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First one I have done - the other one was a washing machine - hohoho. I enjoy rusting things up, if I keep at it will eventually get OK at it.
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Well from right to left - foil and wire, second one it has been cut to a leaf shape, third some cuts across the leaf caused by wind damage and finally a base coat of green on the leaf.
Hi Msea,
Don't get me wrong, but....
Don't we normally go from right to left.
I can go in 'reverse' and I understand the methodology, but I want to know have you been with 'Zombies' too long....
I await the next informative lecture.
Cheers,
Bigkev
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I agree with you Kevin but I had taken the photo and had to go with the layout, or give you the instructions in reverse from finished to start - -- or it could be the zombies as you say - hohohohoho
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I agree with you Kevin but I had taken the photo and had to go with the layout, or give you the instructions in reverse from finished to start - -- or it could be the zombies as you say - hohohohoho
Hi Msea,
Dribbling in anticipation.
Bigkev
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Banana plantation drying in the rack.
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Banana leaves are looking good Martin.
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Next job is to put them on the roof.
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The easy bit then?
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The easy bit then?
No Chris, probably not.
Trouble is, Msea makes it look easy...….
He's a little tinker.
Bigkev
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Two changes to the order of battle - first decided that I would put down the paved area for the tank and then grass the rest ( grass is very fine ground green tea leaves ) If I put the roof on first, thought knowing how clumsy I am would knock off several leaves.
Second needed an electricity supply for the fridge, was just going to put an electrical sub box on the edge behind the tank. Have now decided to put in a lamp shining over the top of the hut towards the road and as I have seen lots of times abroad, open the inspection panel on the post and run wires from this. Have also decide to make a fan running from this illegal electricity supply.
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All parts of the light now made - you can see the open inspection panel at the right hand end of the main white body of the lamp.
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All parts of the light now made - you can see the open inspection panel at the right hand end of the main white body of the lamp.
Will the light work?
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Hi Zak - no it will not work as it was an after thought to the model, and I can't be bothered.
Photos show the parts of the lamp surround fastened together and then cut down to shape and fastened to the main body.
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I still think it would look good with an led in it.
But, if you can't be bothered!
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Its to hot to be bothered about the light - anyway of to the doghouse to make a cold frame for Joyce.
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Parts of the road barrier made, when solid will cut down to shape and fit it all together. Now what colour should it be , yellow and black springs to mind.
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parts put together just the painting and weathering to do.
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Some more work done on rusting up the light and also some wires added to the light body to be cut and fitted to the fridge/fan later
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Nice work Martin, the imagination is running wild.
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Hi Msea,
Love the light and the rusting.
Have you been taking tips off TeaboyJ?
Cheers,
Bigkev
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No Kevin mainly from Mig Jimenez
The parts of the fan now made and ready to paint and rust
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First set of banana leaves added to the roof.
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I never realised that your past was so colourful.
You must enlighten me at some point.
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I could tell some stories that would make your toes turn up - and they are all true !!!!!!!
I wonder if the Frenchman is still in Lagos airport ??????
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All the banana leaves now fitted - needs a little touching up with green paint.
Fan fitted together, just need to thin down the blades a little.
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I like the fan, how did you get the curve on the blades?
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Just heated over a flame and twisted with a pair of pliers.
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Just heated over a flame and twisted with a pair of pliers.
Thanks, a bit delicate, no doubt.
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If I can do it, anybody can do it.
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Dry run with some of the objects in place - next job is to finish the tank so it can go in the hut
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Can't wait to see the finished article Martin.
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Some real modelling going on here.
Keep going Martin.
Andy.
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Thanks all.
A new thing just started - what do you think it will become ????????
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Deck chair?
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Deck chair?
10 out of 10 and you get a gold star. Now shall I make the seat out of material or thin paper ?????
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Its got to be striped though, red and white?
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OK will do
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Tracy's been making cushions for the garden bench set today but they're 1:1 scale a bit for you methinks!! Some more great modelling happening here.
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Tracy's been making cushions for the garden bench set today but they're 1:1 scale a bit for you methinks!! Some more great modelling happening here.
Martin could crochet one.
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Tracy's been making cushions for the garden bench set today but they're 1:1 scale a bit for you methinks!! Some more great modelling happening here.
Martin could crochet one.
What!!!
And let Martin loose with crocheting needles.....!!
Bigkev
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Frame being put together - now will go and get my crochet needles out hohohoho
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Seat now fitted
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Very nice, and real material too - was it a dish cloth?
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Not sure what it was - when "she who must be obeyed" throws things out she always give me the chance of saving it for modelling.
This was some material and things from the loft that had been in a box we had sorted/thrown out from her mothers, so no idea what it was, but it had a very fine warp and weft to it .
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Wow, someone who knows how to unfold a deck-chair!
Respect.
Haddock
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Wow, someone who knows how to unfold a deck-chair!
Respect.
Haddock
Skill indeed, never easy.
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Very nice I’m sat on one at the moment.
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Amazing, Looks really cool !
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Yeah great Martin!
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Thanks for the comments guys.
A start made on the figures - only using 3 of the figures so that leaves me three more to do in another model.
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All three figures put together and then primed.
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A start made in blocking in the main uniform colours
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A start made in blocking in the main uniform colours
Uniform, that's anything but uniform?
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When I have been in Africa the main uniform I found was an AK47
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More work done on the figures.
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Nice work, very scary looking.
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Nice work, very scary looking.
You should see them at a real road block with AK47s and think "have I got the correct papers/bribe" I have seen this all over the world in Africa/Asia/Europe, road block personnel seem to be all of a type, I would be the same if I was one, just before you ask.
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Looking good Martin.
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Is the one in the red shirt you with a suntan when you were younger? The stance looks familiar!!!
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No - much to good looking to be me hohohohoho
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All 3 now fully armed.
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Figures added to the base - next job is to add all the bins and food/drink packaging.
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looking through, I can find no mention of the table, is it scratch built?
It looks very effective, just the job.
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Yes scratch built from balsa and coffee sticks.
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HoHoHoHo - just for Francis - this is how it could be a maritime subject, the sailor is getting the people at the road block in a panic.
Before you all say, it does not fit - I agree, am waiting for the Vallejo paste to try on the road and will then add a different figure.
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Is the sailor related to you?
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He is causing trouble at the road block -- so he must be related to me - hohohoho
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It must be true then!
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Just put a layer of Vallejo Earth Texture black lave-asphalt down to represent a new tarmac road surface.
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Maybe a bit too shiny?
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As always you are correct Zak.
When I have finished the tank and made some vegetation ( NO not figures of the club members ) to climb up the shed will then add some pigments to blend everything together and take the shine off the road.
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Excellent, vegetation, club members? Far too intelligent for them - ooops I may be in trouble now!
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You can't get into trouble for telling the truth - hohohoho - now I am in trouble !!!!!!
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Excellent, vegetation, club members? Far too intelligent for them - ooops I may be in trouble now!
Oh dear!!
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Now I'm waiting for the finished article. It should be good.
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You would not want to happen upon this road block.
Great stuff.
Andy
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Figure now added to the road block - next job some work on the tank and the foliage.
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Hi Msea,
Looking good, in fact excellent, (did I say that?)
I'm sure that if you were involved in that scene, you would totally bamboozle the opposition by your wit, and charm.
Now, which one of those figures could be you...?
I know, the one in the long dress type garment...
looking out for incoming,
Bigkev
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This should give you all a BIG LAUGH - finishing off the tank with some pin washes and other bits and bobs, just about to fasten the space armour in place and decided that something was not correct.
After a lot of thinking and looking and generally scratching my head - realized that the tank tracks where still in the box, unpainted and not fitted - now would Bob do a silly thing like that ???? Next job some of my new pigment on the shiny road surface , just for Zak.
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It is easy to do, especially when you are working on a few models at the same time.
I find that I often forget a bit and have to add it later, either that or I mis interpret the instructions.
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Tank fitted to the base and some pigment added to the road. Will come back to this at a later date and add some foliage up the shade hut poles.
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Looking good Martin.
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Nice diorama.
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Very busy diorama Martin.
You would NOT want to be there.
Looks great.
Andy.
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Been there got the tee shirt - will tell you about the Frenchman in Lagos airport when we meet up.
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Will hold you to that.
Andy.