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Title: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: cph64 on May 01, 2020, 02:46:48 PM
As I'm still waiting for the delivery from Hannants with the Do17 paint masks and various other items this kit has moved up on the production line.
Dating from 1985. or is that 1895?, it's in the usual, for then, two colours of plastic and I can say without a doubt 'it fits where it touches'. As I'm making the NF.12 with the framed canopy the only extras I've added in the cockpit are seat-belts. Also, as the inside is painted black you wouldn't see a lot of detail anyway.
The photos show some of the gaps that are going to need a lot of TLC to correct.
If you decide to make this kit as a NF.14 then remember that Matchbox, along with others, got the nose for that version too long. It should be the same length as the NF.12. For some reason earlier references had the real thing as 7 inches longer, which it isn't. It only looks it in some photos.
I've added braces to the mudguards from fuse wire as these are missing in the moulding.
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Post by: councilman on May 01, 2020, 02:56:41 PM
I like a good Matchbox kit.
Looking forward to seeing this one built.
Well done,
Andy.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: chriswil42 on May 01, 2020, 02:59:21 PM
Yes I have fou d that the Matchbox kits do fit together pretty well. Still got one or two to do myself.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: cph64 on May 02, 2020, 03:36:03 PM
After a senior moment when I thought the carpet monster had eaten the nose wheel, which would have been very difficult as it's cushion floor in the conservatory, it was on with the build. Only an hour wasted before I found it in a clamp I'd used to hold the fuse wire bracket til the glue set, doh!!!
I started tidying the fuselage up and then fitted the wings and tail-planes. Again online reviews were good to their word and the fit left a lot to be desired. So it will be out with more Perfect Plastic Putty!!
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: chriswil42 on May 02, 2020, 04:01:38 PM
Good stuff that Perfect Plastic Putty!
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: zak on May 02, 2020, 04:20:34 PM
Good stuff that Perfect Plastic Putty!
It polishes up well, I use it and Squadron, depends on the job.
I also use Green Stuff, sometimes Milliput.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: cph64 on May 02, 2020, 04:28:07 PM
I also have Green Stuff and Vallejo Plastic Putty both of which have their uses and also foibles!!
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: Bob C on May 02, 2020, 04:39:08 PM
Looks good, will be good to see it when it’s finished not seen one for ages.
Bob c
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: MSea on May 02, 2020, 05:05:06 PM
I know you all think I am funny ( strange not hoho ) but I like the way the engines are splayed out at an angle from the body.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: Kiteman on May 03, 2020, 04:34:13 PM
Nice Job though, despite the fit. This will be a nice model.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: Bigkev on May 03, 2020, 06:54:10 PM
I know you all think I am funny ( strange not hoho ) but I like the way the engines are splayed out at an angle from the body.

Hi Msea,
Could this be a trick of the light/photography?
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: chriswil42 on May 04, 2020, 03:20:37 PM
Is that referring to Martin or the model Kevin?
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: MSea on May 04, 2020, 03:44:26 PM
HoHoHo Chris I am making a note about these and think you will be in the caption comp next time we can have one -- so hohoho to you
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: cph64 on May 22, 2020, 02:24:25 PM
Now that a few more jobs have been done around the bungalow, the Dornier is finished (nearly) and it's a windy day I thought it was time to tackle masking the beast (not Tracy!!!). 3 and a bit hours later it was done and it's been in the paint shop. The thing about Matchbox kits, and some others, is that the painting guides don't always match up, see the first two photos. These also don't match photos of 85 Sqdn Mk. 12s which have the bottom half of the radome in Medium Sea Grey with the top in (rubber) black. So I'm going with the online photos. There's also discrepancies with the markings for a Mk. 12, but we'll cross that bridge later, including the fact that the box top says the Mk. 14 is 85 Sqdn and the Mk.12 is 84 Sqdn, even though they both have the same Sqdn markings? There are no 84 Sqdn markings in the kit!!!
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: zak on May 22, 2020, 02:32:47 PM
I need a mug like that.
My lot just got me the Mr Grumpy one.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: MSea on May 22, 2020, 03:36:47 PM
Well at least they got the correct name on it - hohohoho
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: zak on May 22, 2020, 04:11:33 PM
Well at least they got the correct name on it - hohohoho
Moderated, moderated.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: Bigkev on May 22, 2020, 06:27:29 PM
Now Boys, Play nicely.
I'll be taking the 'persuader' out of retirement, if not.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: Bigkev on May 23, 2020, 07:01:24 PM
Now that a few more jobs have been done around the bungalow, the Dornier is finished (nearly) and it's a windy day I thought it was time to tackle masking the beast (not Tracy!!!). 3 and a bit hours later it was done and it's been in the paint shop. The thing about Matchbox kits, and some others, is that the painting guides don't always match up, see the first two photos. These also don't match photos of 85 Sqdn Mk. 12s which have the bottom half of the radome in Medium Sea Grey with the top in (rubber) black. So I'm going with the online photos. There's also discrepancies with the markings for a Mk. 12, but we'll cross that bridge later, including the fact that the box top says the Mk. 14 is 85 Sqdn and the Mk.12 is 84 Sqdn, even though they both have the same Sqdn markings? There are no 84 Sqdn markings in the kit!!!

Hi Chris,
Seem to find this problem on quite a few 'older' models as well as some 'newer' ones.
Somewhere the people doing the illustrations seem to use artistic licence, rather than realising things don't match.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: chriswil42 on May 24, 2020, 02:05:24 PM
Even when they use photos on the box it quite often does not match the kit inside I've recently found.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: cph64 on May 24, 2020, 04:23:44 PM
After the initial trip to the paint shop I wasn't happy with the shade of Medium Sea Grey, it looked to dark. I'd cross-referenced  the Vallejo number I'd used, Model Air 71.049 Sea Grey and it said it was Medium S G. Not so it's darker than Dark Sea Grey!!! So it was re-mask and back in to get a coat of Model Colour Light Grey, 70.990 which looks a lot nearer. Darker than some online builds but lighter than others!!!
Masking was done with Microscale Micro Mask and it's the first time I've used this. It goes on easier than Maskol, but you don't get the high(!!!). To remove you use tape, I used Sellotape but it didn't lift in all the places and I had to resort to a Q tip. Care has to taken to ensure you only rub the area covered or there will be touch ups required, see 2nd photo. Perhaps I didn't put a thick enough coat on in places to give the tape something to bind to better. I will use it again and see if that works.
For now it's back to the paint shop for touch ups!!!
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: Bigkev on May 25, 2020, 06:34:15 AM
Hi Chris,
Coming along Nicely.
Bigkev
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: chriswil42 on May 25, 2020, 01:41:29 PM
Just out of interest Chris, I did read an article about colour and scale. Apparently the smaller the scale becomes the lighter should be the colour.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: zak on May 25, 2020, 02:52:55 PM
Just out of interest Chris, I did read an article about colour and scale. Apparently the smaller the scale becomes the lighter should be the colour.
The whole colour thing can become a bit of a nightmare, yes you are right about the smaller the scale the lighter, but it also seems to depend on so many other things, don't get me and Haddock started.
Minefield!
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: chriswil42 on May 25, 2020, 03:16:35 PM
Yes I know. Shall not mention it again!
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: councilman on May 25, 2020, 06:14:53 PM
Makes me want to build one...
Nice one Chris.
Andy.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: cph64 on May 31, 2020, 03:24:10 PM
Here's the final product as a NF.12 with 85 Sqdn at Church Fenton circa 1957. Initially 85 Sqdn was equipped with NF.11s and upgraded to 12s by September 57 before upgrading again to 14s which they had when they left on 31st Oct. 1958.
The instructions say that the decals for the 12 are for 84 Sqdn but the box top shows 85 Sqdn correctly. Being @35 years old they have large carrier films which yellowed when dipped in water but settled down with Micro Set and Sol. Just make sure they're where you want them as they can grip! As many panel lines disappeared during the process of filling the trenches working out where some of them went took some time. I've seen photos of 11s and 14s with the Squadron hexagon marking on the tail but the instructions don't show this on the 12. Using logic (?) I assumed they would be there so put them on. The intake rings were painted using wheel masks from a Ju 290 as they were the nearest diameter I had and using masking tape never looked right. Also the kit front nose door has a recess for the landing lights which should be clear. Some had a solid door, which I made for mine.
Last to be fitted were the aerials and the only intake in the kit, several have been left out. They're over scale and again positioning was interesting due to the lack of reference lines.
Special Hobby have released a kit of the NF.12 but if you want a challenge and a kit at half the price then this piece of Classic Plastic is the one for you.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: zak on May 31, 2020, 03:37:28 PM
Nice looking outdoor shots.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: chriswil42 on June 01, 2020, 02:43:06 PM
Nice looking model Chris.
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Post by: Haddock on June 01, 2020, 04:16:28 PM
The outdoor shot adds something to a nice model.
Haddock.
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Post by: Red Lancer on June 01, 2020, 07:29:32 PM
 Looks really good!
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: cph64 on June 03, 2020, 09:50:41 AM
Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: councilman on June 06, 2020, 03:37:56 PM
Yes, yes, I like it.
Well done.
Andy.
Title: Re: Matchbox A.W. Meteor NF.12
Post by: Bigkev on June 06, 2020, 05:30:51 PM
Hi Chris,
Nice looking model that, a good finish with a Matchbox kit of...…..
Good modelling skills my friend.
Bigkev