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Title: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 08, 2018, 01:30:05 PM
After the samurai figures decided to do some Zulu War figures at Rorke's Drift, yet again a couple of boxes of reduced figures from Monksbar in York.
They are 1/32 scale before you ask Zak - and you get 16 in each box ( now is the time that Zak says "I think I have them in the loft and before I get any done he has them finished - but heyho its only for FUN ) so lots to play around with and change the positions.
The second photo is the card test model of the building in the background when I am happy with the size will make it in MDF and coat with filler. the last photo is a start made on changing some of the soldiers who are standing upright with Martini Henry  slung on the back into dead figures.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 08, 2018, 03:59:19 PM
Some of the figures have FULL backpacks on so removed this on the figure on the left other still to have his removed.
Also cleaned up the zulu shields and primed ,-- next job to look at the shield colours for the warriors at Rorkes Drift - I think most had red marks on the shields due to them being younger unmarried warriors
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 09, 2018, 11:10:06 AM
A start made on blocking in colour on jacket and trousers for the troops and basic skin colour for the zulus.
Having carved off the backpack on the 2 troopers will have to replace belts etc with  thin metal.  The shields have also had some colour put on them.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on September 09, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Quick work, no I do not have any from the Zulu Wars.
How do you cope with paint adhering to polythene?
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: Haddock on September 09, 2018, 03:34:29 PM
Did the Zulu's have a Navy then? if so will we be treated to some ships?
Haddock.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 09, 2018, 04:12:38 PM
Just "hardships"
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 09, 2018, 08:24:53 PM
Talking about hardships, just finished painting the strengthening strips of hide in the shields.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on September 10, 2018, 07:14:33 AM
Quick work, no I do not have any from the Zulu Wars.
How do you cope with paint adhering to polythene?

What no answer?
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 10, 2018, 08:14:43 AM
Quick work, no I do not have any from the Zulu Wars.
How do you cope with paint adhering to polythene?

Sorry Zak - was going to say but slipped my mind ( or what is left of it )  Just washed in soapy water and a primer "autotek" from Boyes. Paint seems OK at the moment.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: Wizzel on September 11, 2018, 10:12:46 AM
Many years ago I had a large collection of white metal zulu war figures - a bit bigger than 1/72 from my recollection - which I set up on my own Rourkes Drift diorama.  I then proceeded to recreate the battle playing the part of the hill snipers with my air rifle.

The Zulu War by David Clammer is a good source of reference.  Low on pictures but has a very good section on the impis, shield colours, names and hierarchy.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 11, 2018, 05:22:48 PM
I like the "ZULU -Isandlwana & Rorkes Drift" by Ian Knight with colour plates by Michael Chappell and Angus McBride, and the osprey books are always good.
Some work done on the front and sides of the building, next job is to fasten them down in the slots cut into the base and then cover with plaster of paris.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: Bigkev on September 11, 2018, 07:16:35 PM
Hi Msea,
Always impressed with you creativity.
It's like having our own 'Piccaso' in our midst.
Fabulous as ever.........
Bigkev
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 11, 2018, 07:46:51 PM
You mean like a Piccaso picture of a face it doesn't look like a face ??? hohoho or am I getting a bit deep with this ??????
Forgot to put this photo with the other 2 - it shows for Wizzel how the base has been cut to give more strength to the building. Before he asks it was done with a plough plane and cleaned up with a small very very sharp chisel.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 11, 2018, 08:48:33 PM
All parts of the building glued and pinned into place. The second photo shows the first coat of plaster on the walls.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 12, 2018, 02:47:17 PM
A start made on the biscuit crates. Produced on the comp and then wrapped round a bit of foam -- as you can see from the top row 5 from the left it is coming apart so needs some more glue or time to dry ( must stop rushing projects)
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: Wizzel on September 12, 2018, 03:31:32 PM
Are you basing your research on the film or on books and such like?  Neither is wrong, I'm just curious.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 12, 2018, 04:15:43 PM
Are you basing your research on the film or on books and such like?  Neither is wrong, I'm just curious.

Its out of my head - whatever you do some "clown of a rivet counter" will tell you are wrong, so heyho its only for fun so do as you wish
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 15, 2018, 11:43:17 AM
The stone porch outside the building made from MDF and then coated with plaster.
A coat of brown paint on the ground outside so when the coloured coating is added and falls off, it will not be as obvious.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 15, 2018, 03:57:29 PM
8 more soldiers cleaned up and primed
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: Bigkev on September 15, 2018, 07:25:33 PM
Hi Msea,
It is looking so good. I love the building, the figures, but those Biscuit box's.

Not sure a Mr. Robinson and I, have relatives in the biscuit industry.....?

Oh, Crumbs.....
Cheers,
Bigkev 
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 15, 2018, 08:38:08 PM
Thinking  about it I should have put "John Cook & Co Ltd" on the biscuit box !!!!!!
The 8 soldiers have now had some block colour on them.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 17, 2018, 04:31:02 PM
The walls have now been ground out between the stone blocks and a start made on removing the corners of the blocks so they don't look like square modern blocks.Time consuming but should make it look more of the period -- I hope.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 17, 2018, 05:56:15 PM
All walls done - next some colour in the grooves and then some more colour on the blocks.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 18, 2018, 07:46:00 PM
A coat of tea on the ground outside the building.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 18, 2018, 09:00:42 PM
Door and shutters fitted.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: OLVAR on September 19, 2018, 06:35:46 AM
What a cool Project. I like it very much!
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on September 19, 2018, 07:41:59 AM
Don't forget the roof tiles!
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 19, 2018, 07:46:50 AM
Thank you Oli - glad you are enjoying this project.
Which way round should I put the roof tiles on Zak ???????
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on September 19, 2018, 05:21:57 PM
Now, Now, don't get tetchy!
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 19, 2018, 09:07:49 PM
Just thought it WILL NOT have roof tiles it has straw on the roof -- so I will not get them the wrong way round -- hohoho
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 20, 2018, 02:24:37 PM
Thank you Zak and Haddock for the methods of holding the tea leaves down.
Have used watered down PVA and as you can see from the photo have left a test bit undone - its larger than I was going to leave but run out of PVA so that's the reason.
If the PVA does not hold the leaves firm enough will try Haddocks method of a coat of varnish on top.
We live and learn -- that's what I like about this club, nobody holds onto bits of information or skills, they are happy to help others improve -- and yes I do need a lot of improving before you say it.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 21, 2018, 09:19:12 AM
10 out of 10 and a gold star Zak - it worked on the tea leaves - and thank you Haddock for the back up plan.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 22, 2018, 06:46:46 PM
Corner sticks added to the roof and then some card put over this to give a solid surface, when its all dry and solid will give a coat of paint and then add straw to give a surface.
Zak which way round do I put the straw on the roof - hohoho - I could put it side to side instead of from the top to the bottom , that would give you another chance to laugh at me.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 25, 2018, 07:18:01 PM
A coat of brown paint on the roof so no white will show through if the straw moves.
Next photo is a start made on putting the straw on the roof.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on September 26, 2018, 07:12:15 AM
Hurrah!
We'll make a roofer of you maybe.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 26, 2018, 08:32:52 AM
Hurrah!
We'll make a roofer of you maybe.

but will you ever make a modeler of me ????????
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on September 26, 2018, 09:19:39 PM
You can see from the 2 figures the soldiers left arm is a solid blob of plastic joining the arm,gun and body. A little bit of work drilling this out makes all the difference - I bet MOST members of the club will not even notice this when I bring it to a meeting - but heyho its only for FUN.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on September 27, 2018, 07:24:46 AM
Hurrah!
We'll make a roofer of you maybe.

but will you ever make a modeler of me ????????
No, but it would be better if you were a modeller I think. (oh L, did you say?)
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: OLVAR on September 27, 2018, 09:10:39 AM
 I like it.
Good work!

I must also finish sometimes my project  "The last Stand" in 1:72................
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 06, 2018, 01:00:02 PM
Thank you Oli.
Some more work done on the soldiers and put also  a darker colour on the rocks , so they could be dry brushed lighter.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 19, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
Some more figures cleaned up and primed - next job adding some colour to the uniform.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 20, 2018, 02:04:12 PM
First two lines of soldiers added to the base.
Before Zak says it yes it does look like the scene from the film Zulu.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 20, 2018, 03:15:50 PM
Some Zulu opposition added to challenge the soldiers.
Now to finish painting the rest of the soldiers and Zulus.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on October 20, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
Don't blow the b- - - - - doors off. - sorry wrong Michael Caine film!
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 23, 2018, 08:50:41 PM
Different films but the same character played by Michael Caine in most of them. But still a lot of good films.
Some more work done on the next batch of soldiers and Zulus.  Also changed the net of the box to say "John Cook & Co Ltd", will print them off in the morning and make into box and add to the wall.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 24, 2018, 03:25:22 PM
more figures added.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: Bigkev on October 24, 2018, 04:47:46 PM
Hi Msea,
Looking good.
Nice to see that the 'zulu's' are getting the point of the British Army's defence strategy.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 24, 2018, 08:06:04 PM
Working on the last 4 Zulus.
The point indeed Kevin --- but you notice the Zulus are using the shield to move the bayonet away to the Zulus left and then he can use his spear in his right hand to do the damage. Must STOP reading history and get on with some more modelling or I will be in trouble.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 27, 2018, 12:24:30 PM
More figures and boxes added
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 27, 2018, 04:16:13 PM
A start made on the ammunition boxes to put around the soldiers.
These are the boxes that some people say caused the disaster at Isandlwana because the soldiers could not open the box (they had 2 screws holding the top in place) - this seems to be  incorrect ( from what I had read ) the center section could be removed by a soldier just kicking it with his boot.     
The problem could have been the people in charge, who had to fill in lots and lots of paperwork, about bullets used and empty brass cases returned, not letting the boxes be opened in time ?????
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 28, 2018, 03:19:02 PM
Last figures added. If John Cook looks at the biscuit boxes, he will see he is now in the model.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on October 30, 2018, 04:21:13 PM
More work done on the ammunition boxes - the copper strap will wrap round the box as the metal holding band. The top section that has been kicked off the top of the box has also been made to put alongside the boxes.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on November 04, 2018, 03:54:53 PM
Ammunition boxes added and lots of empty shell cases - from what I have read the soldiers used about 25,000 bullets during the battle.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on November 04, 2018, 06:00:41 PM
Martini- Henri rifles or are they some other sort?
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: Bigkev on November 04, 2018, 08:24:25 PM
Hi Msea,
Just a brilliant subject. You have managed to incorporate so much detail, and atmosphere into this project, you cannot help but be impressed.
Nice work, young man...…..
Bigkev
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on November 04, 2018, 08:37:06 PM
Martini- Henri rifles or are they some other sort?

Yes Zak they should be Martini-Henry but because the soldiers are more toys than models not a lot of definition - and what there is is destroyed by my painting.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: zak on November 05, 2018, 07:20:48 AM
Martini- Henri rifles or are they some other sort?

Yes Zak they should be Martini-Henry but because the soldiers are more toys than models not a lot of definition - and what there is is destroyed by my painting.
Some of the rifles look like the breech from a Martini-Henry, but as you say the definition is not that good.
We used to have some .22 ones at school for use on the rifle range, I quite liked them but they could be a touch unreliable.
Title: Re: Rorke's Drift - Zulu War 1879
Post by: MSea on November 05, 2018, 08:12:35 AM
The .45 bullet from the Martini-Henry was definitely a man stopper - but after the barrel became fouled it had a big  kick back, a bit more than your .22 bullet I expect.