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Title: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on October 20, 2017, 04:44:50 PM
In the stash in the loft I have a trawler and it is on the list to do as one of my dads ships (he fished out of Hull after the war)
Neil gave me another trawler and I decided to do a model of one ship in the water about to go fishing and the other a rusty hulk ashore in the mud. It could be a Hull fishing industry now and then type of model - you know I never just make a model out of the box.
Thank you Neil as you can see from the instructions lots and lots of parts -- PROBLEM -- only bits in the bag are the 2 sections of the hull and 3 deck parts. As she will be rusty and covered in tarps and general rubbish, decided to bodge the bridge and cover with tarps and scratch build the other bits and bobs. Being a "Good Yorkshire Man" i have used the key cards from hotels ( read somewhere that if they have your credit card details on them it can be used after you have left - so always take them with me now) to make the sections for the bridge. Funnel is a brass tube squashed in the vice to make an oval shape.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on October 21, 2017, 09:22:44 AM
Some tarps and general rubbish added to the deck. Next job a coat of primer and some rust and colour then lots more rubbish to add.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on October 21, 2017, 02:05:50 PM
Some rust added to the ship, when dry a coat of dark brown paint.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on October 21, 2017, 03:15:19 PM
Just been in the loft and the other trawler ( sorry Neil but this one does look like a trawler )is the Revell one and the hull is now fastened together. Now to look up my dads ships and decide which one it will be made into.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on October 23, 2017, 04:38:12 PM
The mud flat has now been started, and a hole cut into this for the trawler to be fitted into. The second photo shows the ship in place -- she will have some more mud in front of her and will have wet areas around the hull and rivulets of water running down to the sea. Now  back to rusting up the ship and still have the mast and other things to make.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on October 25, 2017, 08:39:01 AM
Last night Neil was asking about how I made the hole for the ship in the "Kingspan". Many many many years ago somebody gave me the tool in the first photo (this was when Queen Victoria had just take the throne and Zak was  only 270 years old), I think it was supposed to be for carving wood. Found it in the bottom of a tool box and thought it might do the job of carving the Kingspan - worked a treat.
Never having used Kingspan before used a full face mask, as not sure how toxic it is and how fine the dust would be -- any body any ideas on this subject ??????
Just thought Zak is back today from Aus -- not only is he in the national magazines as "Mr Grumpy", I have told you all that he is 319 years old, I think I shall keep a very very very low profile at the next meeting.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on October 25, 2017, 07:27:59 PM
Please Sir!

I think it was me who asked you how you made the hole in the Kingspan..................
Too much coffee last night Msea?
Bigkev
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: zak on October 26, 2017, 08:44:26 AM
Last night Neil was asking about how I made the hole for the ship in the "Kingspan". Many many many years ago somebody gave me the tool in the first photo (this was when Queen Victoria had just take the throne and Zak was  only 270 years old), I think it was supposed to be for carving wood. Found it in the bottom of a tool box and thought it might do the job of carving the Kingspan - worked a treat.
Never having used Kingspan before used a full face mask, as not sure how toxic it is and how fine the dust would be -- any body any ideas on this subject ??????
Just thought Zak is back today from Aus -- not only is he in the national magazines as "Mr Grumpy", I have told you all that he is 319 years old, I think I shall keep a very very very low profile at the next meeting.
I seem to be getting a lot of stick - remember revenge will be sweet.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on October 30, 2017, 04:10:06 PM
An old and decrepit jetty made to go on the mud flats. Then a couple of masts made and fitted, next job is to add the standing rigging.
Then add some clear and shredded plastic to the rigging, so it looks like the stuff you see on the roadside bushes, well that's the plan at the moment.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on October 31, 2017, 08:15:37 PM
You know, when you said 'an old and decrepit jetty' I half expected to see you in the picture........

You know which bit I meant, the 'an old and decrepit' description.

Oooops! I've done it now..............

Tin hat now suitably donned, expecting fall out from above observation/comment.
Cheers,
Bigkev
 
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on November 01, 2017, 03:41:57 PM
You don't have to worry Kev -- I am a reformed character and would not even consider revenge OR MAKE ANOTHER CARTOON OF YOU.
And if you believe the load of old rubbish above -- you must be going soft in the head  - just you wait !!!!!!
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on November 07, 2017, 11:42:42 AM
The trawler stuck in the mud has had a little more work done on her, and she is now fitted in place. Just for the fun and enjoyment the second trawler has had her below water line parts removed.
So busy busy busy and NO TIME to make cartoons BUT you are in the book for later Kevin.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on November 07, 2017, 07:47:09 PM
Hi Msea,
It's looking really, really nice.........
Not enough grovelling to avoid the 'Wrath of the Cartoon' I expect.
In some respects it might be good you've been too busy to do any repayment cartoon's, as I am having to cut short the next meeting due to work.
No doubt I will get the 'FULL' treatment in due course! When I can fully appreciate it...........or not!
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on November 19, 2017, 12:25:00 PM
The ladders to go from one deck to the one above are just lines in the plastic (black marker to make them stand out)
They have been removed and some 3D ones made from brass rod soldered together, if I did this again I think I would make the cross bars smaller size rod.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on November 19, 2017, 06:43:59 PM
Hi Msea,
Another great example of your modelling skills, I like the Kingspan base for the derelict Trawler especially and you know why.
Your imagination holds no bounds................................unfortunately in some cases (cartoons)!!!
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on November 22, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
Working on replacing the masts with brass bar. The ships boat has been painted and dry brushed to bring out the planks, and the searchlight has been hollowed out and painted silver with a coat of glass glue to be added to  make it look 3D.
A CHALLENGE FOR KEVIN -- you know what the model is (its a trawler if you have not figured it out ) but what parts will the brass sections in the last photo  make ??????
Next job is to add 2 sections of chain to the mast for the rigging and drill holes in the deck for the small tube to pass the rigging through.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on November 22, 2017, 05:35:13 PM
Hi Msea,
Trawlers are not on my list of familiarity, but could the parts form the basis of the sidewinder winch for the net?
Suppose I'm way off, but I can live with it..............
Cheers,
Bigkev

PS. Nice work that man!
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on November 25, 2017, 12:16:34 PM
Well done that man just about 10 out of 10.
With the mast and the boom for hauling in the nets been replaced with brass rod. I thought (its that word again) the join for the mast and boom would be a weak point if left in plastic. So have replaced them with brass, the bent bar is incorrect because I picked up the WRONG bar on the desk, it is a thinner section than the one in the photo.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on November 25, 2017, 08:08:08 PM
Hi Msea,
I knew you had put that in to fool me (Actually I didn't)
Glad my guess was on target, at least I have SOME appreciation of trawlers and how they operated.
Looking forward to seeing the finished article.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on January 12, 2018, 04:15:34 PM
A bit more worlk done on the 2 trawlers.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on January 13, 2018, 03:29:21 PM
More work done on the ford mast and supports. Aft mast fitted but not rigged yet.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on January 13, 2018, 04:09:45 PM
A start made on the "red duster"
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on January 13, 2018, 08:59:32 PM
Hi Msea, ( or MFM)
Nice looking trawler, are you going to hand paint the union flag on what I think is the Red Duster?
You seem to have a few projects going on, don't you?
Cheers,
Bigkev
 
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on January 14, 2018, 12:39:39 PM
Hi Msea, ( or MFM)
Nice looking trawler, are you going to hand paint the union flag on what I think is the Red Duster?
You seem to have a few projects going on, don't you?
Cheers,
Bigkev
 
Yes and Yes -- hand painting the flag and yes lots of projects on the go at the same time, I seem to get fed up working on the same project over time, I like to chop and change and come back fresh.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on January 14, 2018, 12:57:54 PM
Just for you Kev.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on January 14, 2018, 03:14:16 PM
Isn't the union flag upside down..............?








Only joking MFM!
Bigkev
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on January 14, 2018, 04:44:27 PM
Rigging and flag fitted . If the flag is upside down it must be my bad painting Kev - sorry - i will let you do the next one.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on January 14, 2018, 06:37:46 PM
No, No, No,

If I painted it, it wouldn't be upside down, it would be back to front as well.................!

Nice work.......... are those your and the other half's initials on the funnel, or your dad's???

Cheers,
Bigkev 
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on January 14, 2018, 07:57:03 PM
Yes mine and Joyce, decided to make the ship out of the box - not one of my dads ships, it would have been to long a job to change it, so decided to just get this model finished.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on May 16, 2018, 02:51:14 PM
Some weathering done on the trawler and fastened down on the base. Next job to add the sea.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on May 16, 2018, 09:08:38 PM
hi Msea,
A very nice composition and story with this build.
Only the water to add, cannot wait to 'Sea' finished article. ho, ho, ho!
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on May 17, 2018, 07:43:51 AM
hi Msea,
Only the water to add, cannot wait to 'Sea' finished article. ho, ho, ho!
Bigkev

HoHoHo - who is a wit then ??????
First layer of texture and paint on the model.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Bigkev on May 17, 2018, 07:54:19 AM
HoHoHo - who is a wit then ??????
First layer of texture and paint on the model.
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Hi Msea,
Aaaah, that's looking better.
As you know my 'wit' comes free.
Nice looking model........
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on May 19, 2018, 12:32:53 PM
Coat of gel on the sea. This started as a model of one of my dads trawlers but has turned into a "Hull fishing industry now and then" model.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: zak on May 19, 2018, 12:47:39 PM
Coat of gel on the sea. This started as a model of one of my dads trawlers but has turned into a "Hull fishing industry now and then" model.
What is the gloss gel you are using?
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on May 19, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
Hi Zak - it is Winsor & Newton artists acrylic Gloss Gel. I got a tub of this in a sale at Hobbycraft in Hull  a while ago.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: zak on May 19, 2018, 02:54:45 PM
Hi Zak - it is Winsor & Newton artists acrylic Gloss Gel. I got a tub of this in a sale at Hobbycraft in Hull  a while ago.
I might get some and give it a go for sea. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: Haddock on May 19, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
Make sure you get the structure gel and not the modelling paste, which dries white not clear. I use the paste for
bow waves and wakes.
Haddock.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: zak on May 20, 2018, 07:46:25 AM
Its a real eye opener, this ship lark.
Title: Re: Another of my Dads ships
Post by: MSea on May 20, 2018, 09:03:30 AM
Its a real eye opener, this ship lark.

Its even more FUN than you know - both paste and gel look the same when you pick them up, very very easy to get them mixed up. Will bring some on Wed to show you.