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Title: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on July 13, 2017, 11:09:15 AM
Firing Line 1/35 Land Rover Lightweight(spelt without the L on the box) soft top.

I do like Land Rovers and have a few models, Defenders, Pink Panthers and so on but not one of these, so I took the plunge and got one on E-bay, not cheap, don’t ask.

The kit contains resin, white metal and photo etched parts together with a two set instruction sheet.
I think some research will be required before the build begins. I have two or three books and the internet has some useful sights, including one about this particular kit
http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums/postings.asp?th=41856&p=5
I will keep dipping into this for advice and help no doubt, and this one on the real thing
http://www.land-rover-lightweight.co.uk/Index.html
Even though it details a hard top some of the details are similar.

The vehicle was developed by the Rover Company to provide an air-portable truck. The Lightweight can be lifted by a Puma or a Wessex and to save weight, doors, spare wheel, hood, body sides, windscreen and bumpers can be removed.
Production began in 1968.
It has 4 forward and one reverse gear with a two speed transfer box.
The engine could be either petrol or diesel 2286cc, electrical system could be 12 or 24 volt.
Wheelbase was 88 inches.
 It had a single dry plate clutch.
Live axles front and rear with semi elliptic and hydraulic dampers all round.
Drum brakes were fitted all round and parking brake on transmission output shaft.
Total production;
Series IIA - 2,989
Series III – 12.334 (up to 1980)
Looking at the lights on the model it would seem to be a Series III.
Maybe I could scratch build a Series IIA – food for thought there.
I have enlarged some plans from Terry Gander’s book – Encyclopaedia of the British Army.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 13, 2017, 12:41:04 PM
The resin parts required some cleaning up but were pretty good.
The white metal parts were fairly crisp, just a bit of filing needed.
I use superglue for construction.
I nearly put the axles in the wrong place but careful study of the instructions/exploded view prevented this.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Wizzel on July 13, 2017, 05:56:49 PM
Nice.  Don't leave it on the table unattended when the kids are about though!!
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 13, 2017, 06:00:10 PM
Nice.  Don't leave it on the table unattended when the kids are about though!!
Luckily they have gone back to Australia.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Wizzel on July 13, 2017, 09:47:44 PM
I've driven a few of those in my time in the RCT - and Kiteman will have fixed a few too as a REME vehicle mechanic.  As we used to say, "I bend 'em, he mends 'em."  It put quite a lump in my throat seeing that photograph on the instruction sheet.

Don't be too keen to get a perfect finish on the paint job will you.  We used to do it Haddock style and slosh it on, literally.

I'd be grateful for some more information on the FFR set up (Fitted For Radio).  It says on the box lid that FFR boxes are included.  Is this just the TUAAMs on the wings or does it also include the radio/s in the back?  Reason is that I would like to model the vehicle I used to have as my FFR Land Rover in Germany - we used to build up and modify the backs of them to be a real home from home with armchairs, wooden walls and dexion roofing under the canvas top, fluorescent tube lights powered from the 24v radio batteries, folding map tables and all sorts of comforts.  THAT would be a good scratch building project for me.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 14, 2017, 07:15:48 AM
Just the boxes on the front wings, no radio in the back, mores the pity.
If you look at the links one shows a guy putting in an Accurate Armour radio in the back. It is the link to Military Modelling on the first post.

Although I only used them second hand as a member of the CCF I still have fond memories of them and other Land Rovers, particularly driving through the Lake District in a Long wheelbase one with 10 cadets in the back - the gear stick snapped off. We had to stop and use a pair of mole grips on the stub left behind to change gear. The ones we got were always well used to say the least.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 14, 2017, 10:18:54 AM
More parts stuck on, the interior, sparse as it was, and the rear door.

The side door are made from an etched brass sandwich.
The doors are attached to the brass fret with quite large lugs.
I had to saw them off with care.
No glazing is supplied and you have to supply your own to fit the sandwich.
The small panel of glazing is for the sliding panel.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: MSea on July 14, 2017, 12:30:55 PM
Looking good -- you will be challenging Haddock as the "brass king" before long.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Wizzel on July 14, 2017, 03:25:04 PM
Thanks for the info and the amusing story.  I will investigate further.  (since typing this, I clicked on the links - investigation now done!  There is some super info on the PRC and VRC radios - but not where to get a 1/35th scale one from.  I'll look further - or commission one from a famous scratchbuilder I know  ;) ).

I doubt the creation of your own windows will cause you any anxiety!
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Kiteman on July 15, 2017, 04:43:19 PM
If you want to build your old FFR Wizzell you must put the steering wheel on the oposite side!!
Nice Project Zak...as Wizzel said, I used to mend them. I know this beast intimately.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Wizzel on July 15, 2017, 06:14:37 PM
If you want to build your old FFR Wizzell you must put the steering wheel on the oposite side!!
Nice Project Zak...as Wizzel said, I used to mend them. I know this beast intimately.

Ah, well reminded Kitey.  I'd have blundered into a purchase without a second thought if you hadn't reminded me!!  I wonder if any companies produce a LHD Land Rover 110?
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 16, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
There is too much etched brass for me, the doors are all brass, hinges added.
The windscreen is a 4 part sandwich with etched detail and white metal.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Kiteman on July 16, 2017, 06:37:03 PM
Just keep going, it`ll be worth it in the end.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Bigkev on July 16, 2017, 08:21:05 PM
Hi Zak,

If anyone is going to make this kit a worthy representation, it is you.

Bigkev
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 26, 2017, 12:06:40 PM
Undercoated.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Kiteman on July 26, 2017, 01:45:46 PM
Smart as a carrot!
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 26, 2017, 05:54:22 PM
Smart as a carrot!
But its not orange?
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Bigkev on July 26, 2017, 09:03:05 PM
Undercoated.

Where the heck do you get that two tone undercoat from? I must get a tin.........Ho, ho, ho

Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 27, 2017, 07:20:14 AM

More like 3 colours really.
The wheels were simply placed on for the photo, are you trying to wind me up - remember I will get my own back at some stage, when you are least expecting it.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Bigkev on July 27, 2017, 08:07:17 PM
Hi Zak,
I reckon I'd better behave myself.
If you get your own back I won't have a leg to stand on!
Get my drift?
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on July 28, 2017, 07:30:12 AM
Hi Zak,
I reckon I'd better behave myself.
If you get your own back I won't have a leg to stand on!
Get my drift?
Cheers,
Bigkev
Perhaps you need moderating?
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Bigkev on July 28, 2017, 05:38:53 PM
Will that be in one leg or two?

Bigkev
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on August 11, 2017, 03:00:26 PM
Well I have had a few problems with this, general fit and etched brass and then I dropped it, resin and white metal is not as resilient as plastic and so a major repair job has been underway.
Anyway here is the rebuilt Land Rover.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Wizzel on August 11, 2017, 03:17:06 PM
Not to be outdone by Kiteman, eh?  That's looking grand.  It's certainly stirred up some memories looking at it.  Be a real treat to see when it's done.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: Haddock on August 11, 2017, 03:45:48 PM
Amazing how an ugly green lump can look so impressive.
Haddock.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover
Post by: zak on August 11, 2017, 06:19:28 PM
While the paint dries here is another Land Rover.
This is the Series III 109 from Italeri, various decals sorry transfers are provided.
I think I am happier working in plastic.
Photo show the box art and chassis construction.
Over the years I have built a number of Land Rovers and I may sneak some photos in here later.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on August 11, 2017, 06:34:17 PM
Here we have the offerings from Tamiya (Pink Panther) and a similar one from Italeri.
Bothe have the Eduard etched sets added.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Kiteman on August 12, 2017, 07:20:46 AM
A veritable plethera of Land Rovers
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on August 12, 2017, 08:39:46 AM
More to follow.
Revel and Hobbyboss I think?
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: MSea on August 12, 2017, 08:43:20 AM
As I call him "Spitfire Bill" should I start calling you "Land Rover Zak" OR would that result in double cost for membership and monthly subs ????????
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Haddock on August 12, 2017, 08:52:42 AM
I can't keep up.
All very impressive.
Haddock.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on August 12, 2017, 11:16:15 AM
More work on the plastic kit - much happier with it.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Bigkev on August 12, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Nice Work Zak.............

Can we just call you 'Rover' from now on.........................../

Bigkev
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: bridlufc on August 12, 2017, 06:13:54 PM
Nice doggy get off my leg!!

Bridlufc
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on August 13, 2017, 07:56:16 AM
Here are some other, built some time ago.
Conversion from a kit and the Hobbyboss one - I think.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on August 13, 2017, 12:03:34 PM
Some painting done.
The last of my land Rovers is one from Accurate Armour.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Bigkev on August 13, 2017, 04:33:11 PM
Steady on 'Rover' I can't keep up!
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on August 15, 2017, 12:47:41 PM
Painting.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on August 16, 2017, 11:35:06 AM
Nearly there now, just a few tweaks and the roof to get to fit better.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Kiteman on August 16, 2017, 05:49:15 PM
Wowza Zak, I am breathless :o
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Wizzel on September 04, 2017, 07:50:53 AM
I suppose they are all RHD?  Would it be a massive job to convert one into LHD for a BAOR issue L/R do you think?
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on September 04, 2017, 05:54:02 PM
No some include bits for L of R hand drive.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Wizzel on September 04, 2017, 07:42:04 PM
That's great!  Does it give any indication on the box please.  I'd like to make a Landrover 110 (long wheel base) but the FFR version.  Could you recommend a starting point?
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Bigkev on September 04, 2017, 08:15:23 PM
Hi Wizzel,
I can matey............................
You need to open the box first!
Ha, ha, ha.......
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Haddock on September 04, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Hi Wizzel,
I can matey............................
You need to open the box first!
Ha, ha, ha.......
Bigkev
You need to buy a kit first!
Haddock.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: MSea on September 04, 2017, 10:29:34 PM
Hi Wizzel,
I can matey............................
You need to open the box first!
Ha, ha, ha.......
Bigkev
You need to buy a kit first!
Haddock.

No first you have to get permission to get the kit !!!!!!!
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Wizzel on September 05, 2017, 06:18:41 AM
No, I've got it...I need to find a helpful club to join first...
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on September 05, 2017, 07:11:00 AM
Sorry Dave, ignore the rest, will talk to you at the next meeting hopefully.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: MSea on September 05, 2017, 07:19:25 AM
No, I've got it...I need to find a helpful club to join first...
Sorry Dave, ignore the rest, will talk to you at the next meeting hopefully.

Will you also tell me which club I should go and join --- leaving  all you nice people in peace.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Bigkev on September 05, 2017, 07:29:02 AM
Oh Msea,
Where else would you find such camaraderie, abuse, and unhelpful suggestions on the placing of your camera?
Bigkev
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: MSea on September 05, 2017, 09:49:46 AM
Oh Msea,
Where else would you find such camaraderie, abuse, and unhelpful suggestions on the placing of your camera?
Bigkev


That place is full so you will have to come up with another idea !!!!!!
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Wizzel on September 05, 2017, 03:54:39 PM
Considering you're supposed to be tight Yorkshiremen, I've never met such a generous bunch...with insults, abuse and humiliation.  But I wouldn't have it any other way  :)
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: MSea on September 05, 2017, 09:02:26 PM
Considering you're supposed to be tight Yorkshiremen, I've never met such a generous bunch...with insults, abuse and humiliation.  But I wouldn't have it any other way  :)

We aim to please - YOU are next in the firing line.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: Wizzel on September 06, 2017, 01:18:11 PM
Considering you're supposed to be tight Yorkshiremen, I've never met such a generous bunch...with insults, abuse and humiliation.  But I wouldn't have it any other way  :)

We aim to please - YOU are next in the firing line.

I'm rather disappointed I've had to wait in the queue so long.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: zak on September 08, 2023, 11:54:24 AM
Whilst in Cumbria, I visited a model shop in Dalston and picked up an AK Land Rover 88 Series IIA Station Wagon.
Lots of parts, lots of small bits, but I do have a soft spot for Land Rovers.
Anyway, I have been slowly (For me) been building and painting this, almost in the background.
This seemed as good a place as any to post pictures, here it is.

Why this livery - I jus fancied something with a bit more colour, my original intention was to do it as part of the Israeli Defence Force.
Title: Re: The 1/2 -tonne Land Rover and now some others as well.
Post by: chriswil42 on September 09, 2023, 03:06:32 PM
Certainly a change of colur. Looks good.