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Title: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 05, 2017, 04:10:05 PM
        Started this about a week ago. Forgotten where I bought it and what it cost. I've treated it to Artwox wood decks and Sea-master gun barrels, all the brass you need comes in the box although I'm sure I'll replace some of it with generic stuff.
        You may remember I've already built a Tesaravich but as in 1917 when she had been renamed Grazhdanin (got a gold at Telford a year ago, just thought I'd pop that in )so this version is as commissioned in late 1903, a lot more stuff to add.
        From the reference material I can find the kit looks pretty accurate, just one error which I've already corrected, thanks for the inserts Martin. 
Haddock. 
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on February 05, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
My pleasure Haddock - anything for a "gold medal" winner.
but it would be a pleasure even if you hadn't won a bean.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on February 06, 2017, 04:59:59 PM
Will this one be another gold for Haddock???
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on February 06, 2017, 07:51:05 PM
If its not a Gold, I'll try to knit Fog at Telford............................if there is any!

Wonderful stuff is sure to follow.............................

Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 08, 2017, 09:01:50 AM
And now to the build.
                 First, a bit about wooden decks, they're not a push-over, the positions of all the detail is very accurate but generally the profile needs to be trimmed to fit properly, a bit fiddly.
                The hull is reinforced by two hefty spacers which need to be cut down in preparation for the water-lining process. There are six guns each side which need to be added, in hind-site, I could have done this after water-lining, we live and learn! I've added some plastic tube with brass rod stuffed down the middle to reinforce the hull and stop it collapsing after removing the bottom half of the hull. It's just a case of picking the right height ( below the waterline and above the cut ).
                Lots of dry-fitting, hopefully to spot the little naughty bits that Trumpeter always provide,then chop the bottom off.
                Hopefully, the pictures will speak for themselves.
Haddock.


 
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on February 08, 2017, 11:51:21 AM
A positive photo-fest. Excellent.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on February 08, 2017, 04:38:44 PM
Very good indeed, I do enjoy watching your builds Haddock. What are you going to do with that big canoe that you have left over???
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 22, 2017, 09:34:22 PM
Very good indeed, I do enjoy watching your builds Haddock. What are you going to do with that big canoe that you have left over???
It's in the bin!!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 22, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
Think this is what Roger means by " messing about "

The plastic disc is 1.2mm diameter by 0.5mm thick, the brass bit is part of a string of floats, folded to wrap around the plastic. I need to make a few of these.

Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Pen-Pusher on February 23, 2017, 08:01:42 AM
We live in awe Sir.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 23, 2017, 09:49:51 AM
Thanks.

Here's another type of pulley................. then the two working together.

Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Wizzel on February 23, 2017, 10:58:03 AM
I do like these older vessels.  And I do like the thought and love that you put into the build Haddock!  Wonderful stuff.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on February 23, 2017, 12:30:00 PM
I am glad you are back on the older types of ships, its my favorite type.
But it puts me to shame every time I see your builds and then look at mine.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 23, 2017, 02:29:03 PM
                    Nearly had a senior moment here, I cam sympathise with Roger.
                What you see are the main parts for the lower part of the main-mast. When dry-fitted, it becomes obvious that the running ends of the topping lift and the purchase have to pass through the fighting top to run down the side of the mast, pass round some sort of a jockey at the foot of the mast and finish up at a winch.
              I completely missed the " pass through the fighting top " bit so I've had to add a couple of bits of brass tube to make it happen. This would have been a lot easier to do if I'd spotted it earlier, preferably before the brass gussets were fitted.
              Must remember to engage brain fully before jumping in with gay abandon!!
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Wizzel on February 23, 2017, 03:00:56 PM
What you typed made no sense at all but thankfully you included the pictures which brought it all into context.  This is something that I find is missing from so made build reviews in magazines; people are happy to tell you WHAT they did, but not tell or show you HOW they did it.  I'm often left with a feeling of "it looks great but how did you make it so".  Not the case with the projects on here.   
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 24, 2017, 03:33:30 PM
All lined up ready for paint to be sloshed on.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on February 24, 2017, 07:03:25 PM
ready for paint to be sloshed on.

Sloshed on is not a phrase I associate with your models - its more of an MSea type of thing !!!!!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on February 24, 2017, 08:55:11 PM
Hi Haddock,
If my sloshing was compared to yours, it would be ten times thinner and ten times neater!!!

I would describe it more as artistic colouring at the very least............!
Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 26, 2017, 05:52:01 PM
       First attempt at some colour. There is a lot of confusion as to what the actual colour should be.   Some sources say that the Russian " official " colour was a very dark olive green, almost black,  This weathered and faded very quickly, The English translation of the Russian description
( no RAL,RLM or FS numbers in those days ) is " sooth " or more likely "soot" so a very dark grey should probably do for a start.
                     Although the pic looks to be black, it isn't, it's a very dark grey but the gloss varnish ( Johnsons ) makes it look "black", which it ain't.
       All the fleet that took part in the Russo-Japanese war had to make a voyage of some 18,000 nautical miles, from the Baltic to the China sea, crossing the equator twice.
      On arrival at Port Arthur, the hulls were encrusted with salt, rust and coal-dust although the superstructure was relatively clean. Looks like some subtle weathering is in order.
       It's worth mentioning that at normal viewing distance, say two feet, you are a scale 700 feet away from the ship and the weathering would probably be almost invisible. Only when you get up close and personal would you be able to see it...... I think.
       Best just to press on regardless and see what happens!!
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on February 27, 2017, 02:29:49 PM
I agree with Wizzel, and also didn`t understand a word of all that seaman stuff that you be speaking there.

regards
Landlubber!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 28, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
I agree with Wizzel, and also didn`t understand a word of all that seaman stuff that you be speaking there.

regards
Landlubber!
Anything you don't understand, just ask and all will be revealed,       for a small fee of course.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 28, 2017, 11:14:02 AM
                That's wooden decks fitted then. Plus a bit of detail for added interest.
          Not really sure what colour the steel decks should be. Some sources say they were just hull colour but well faded, others say some were covered with "linoleum" which was some sort of a brown, could have been a reddish brown. I'll settle for what's on now, with maybe a bit of a wash to dirty it up. 
          At the moment everything looks very clean and shiny, which is wrong, so when the first level above the wood deck is on I need to start with some weathering, trouble is at the moment I'm not quite sure what it should look like.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on February 28, 2017, 01:26:44 PM
                    If it's painted, it's stuck, unpainted, just dry-fitted.
              I guess now is a good time to fit the detail that goes on the brown deck, while I can still get at it. There's ladders down to the main deck, rails that go around the tops of the ladders, guns and rails that go around the whole deck although these may be better done when the next deck is fitted.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on February 28, 2017, 03:16:11 PM
Looking good - no its looking excellent.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on February 28, 2017, 08:12:31 PM
Looking very good.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 01, 2017, 03:44:45 PM
Few more bits and bobs added, then some dry fitting.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 02, 2017, 01:16:39 PM
Few more bits and pieces added. It's becoming obvious that the wood deck in the mid-ship section will be almost unseen, the whole area is covered by at least eight ships boats. Hey-ho.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Roger on March 02, 2017, 07:06:51 PM
Nice boat that.

Roger
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on March 03, 2017, 01:37:51 PM
You commented on Rogers latest build that his models have a certain "Finesse" about them. I must say the same about your models my friend. Even though this is all work in progress the model looks proffessional und "right, if you know what I mean. I dont now how you manage that.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 03, 2017, 04:18:17 PM
You commented on Rogers latest build that his models have a certain "Finesse" about them. I must say the same about your models my friend. Even though this is all work in progress the model looks proffessional und "right, if you know what I mean. I dont now how you manage that.
       I think being a tight-fisted Yorkshireman helps, I like to get my moneys-worth out of a kit.
Anyhow, here's a bit of dry-fitting and some "hidden" engineering to facilitate the rigging later on.
Haddock.
PPP=PPP.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on March 03, 2017, 05:30:06 PM
PPP = PPP ???
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on March 03, 2017, 07:07:16 PM
I'll Private Message you Kiteman.
The breakdown of the acronym is........................................?
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on March 04, 2017, 05:41:53 PM
Received and understood....many thanks.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 06, 2017, 04:27:13 PM
                       If it's painted, it's stuck in place,
                Next problem is to position the ships boats. Trumpeter's version of events just doesn't make sense.
              They sit on brass cradles..............which don't fit, in such a position that they collide with each other and other stuff too, so a bit of re-engineering is in order, bearing in mind that the funnel stays should land somewhere at deck level, and, with a clear run, no collisions.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on March 06, 2017, 10:48:39 PM
                Next problem is to position the ships boats. Trumpeter's version of events just doesn't make sense.
              They sit on brass cradles..............which don't fit, in such a position that they collide with each other and other stuff too, so a bit of re-engineering is in order, bearing in mind that the funnel stays should land somewhere at deck level, and, with a clear run, no collisions.
Haddock.

The problems we have with ships - all they do is stick a couple of wings onto the body
HoHoHoHo - sorry lads could not miss the opportunity
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 07, 2017, 07:47:36 AM
                Next problem is to position the ships boats. Trumpeter's version of events just doesn't make sense.
              They sit on brass cradles..............which don't fit, in such a position that they collide with each other and other stuff too, so a bit of re-engineering is in order, bearing in mind that the funnel stays should land somewhere at deck level, and, with a clear run, no collisions.
Haddock.

The problems we have with ships - all they do is stick a couple of wings onto the body
HoHoHoHo - sorry lads could not miss the opportunity
You have to get 'em the right way up though, the wings that is, not easy sometimes.
Haddock.

Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 07, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
                  So this is where the after funnel stays will attach to the deck.
            With my dubious eye-sight and hands that shake like a jelly, I have great difficulty attaching the ends of rigging etc by the usual method of superglue and activator , I can never hit the right place first time. However, I do seem to be able to mark and drill holes in the right place, hence the brass tube.
             The line passes through the tube and is fixed somewhere else inside the hull, this lets me attach more than one line in the same place but at different times, ( think about it ).
             Same idea lets you pass through two or even three levels of plastic with the line(s) fixed away from the tube and if you change your mind, you can remove one piece without disturbing the other. Hope that makes sense.
             If you look closely, you should see another "hole" behind the skylight on top of the central deck-house, this is to accept two forestays from the mainmast.
             The tube is 0.6mm O/D X 0.4mm I/D.
           Henceforth, this method shall be known as " the Haddock Hole " or if you prefer it "the 'addock 'ole ".
           At the moment, there are thirteen " 'addock 'oles " dotted around, more could be needed.
Haddock.





Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 07, 2017, 02:16:35 PM
I do like the term "Addock Ole", seem to fit like a glove Mr Beesting, sir.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on March 07, 2017, 03:12:19 PM
What an ingeneious solution. I am glad that you have shared you "ole" with us.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Roger on March 07, 2017, 05:39:54 PM
Perhaps a demonstration of "Addock's Ole" at a club meeting?

Roger
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 07, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
Careful now!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on March 07, 2017, 08:16:15 PM
I have some spare 3" drainpipe if needed.................................

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 10, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Funnels and bits and bobs added, I think I could be a bit ambitious with the pulleys at the end of the derricks, can't seem to get 'em to hang realistically.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on March 10, 2017, 04:27:41 PM
Is that fishing line you have used on the pulleys ????
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 10, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
               Boyes invisible mending thread, it's really the same as fishing line in that it's a nylon monofilament, but cheaper. You get about 300 feet on a reel for £1, that was when I got it some years ago
 0.1mm dia.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on March 10, 2017, 06:23:46 PM
A 'true' Yorkshireman, that Haddock is.
Only a £1, but I bet he said 'Ow Much!!!!'
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 10, 2017, 09:00:37 PM
                                  Came off in me 'and, 'onist mister!
             What you see is a compass platform, laid flat. It should end up like the one on the left, but taller.
For some unknown reason, Trumpeter have decided to relief-etch where the bends should be but they've gone almost through, you can see the result.
        I'm now trying to figure a way of sticking it together and build some mechanical strength into the flippin' thing.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: bridlufc on March 10, 2017, 10:17:29 PM
It can also be used for aircraft rigging.

Bridlufc
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 12, 2017, 02:25:09 PM
Derricks rigged.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 12, 2017, 04:18:21 PM
Very nice too.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 13, 2017, 03:41:19 PM
            Bit more stuff added (lousy picture).
        The railings that surround the upper deck are supplied in one long run, so that's three large rads and six bends, also included are awning stanchions and to cap it all, the top rail is locally dropped adjacent to each gun. You have to be joking.
       I've managed it with five pieces of generic brass rail, different pitches to fit it in and left the brass splinter-shields off the guns so they don't collide with the rails. Not historically accurate but it will have to do.
Haddock.
I can't see any awning stanchions on any of my reference pictures except those that were on when the ship was commissioned so I guess they were removed. I've done the same.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 13, 2017, 03:59:52 PM
The picture shows your efforts well.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 14, 2017, 08:42:58 AM
It also highlights every flippin' imperfection, and there are a few.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 14, 2017, 11:14:01 AM
It also highlights every flippin' imperfection, and there are a few.
Haddock.

It always amazes me that things seem to stand out on a photo more than real life.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 14, 2017, 01:50:34 PM
It also highlights every flippin' imperfection, and there are a few.
Haddock.

It always amazes me that things seem to stand out on a photo more than real life.
Something to do with old age and failing eyesight.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 15, 2017, 01:48:40 PM
                   So here's the compass platform that fell to bits, mine's a bit clunkier than the brass effort but you won't see most of the lower bit as it's surrounded by ships boats (two high).
                  Then there's the after one that stayed in one piece, plus some railings and ladders.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Wizzel on March 15, 2017, 02:41:31 PM
I'd make a much worse job of that in 1/32 scale.  Even the camera says you've done a good job!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 15, 2017, 02:42:56 PM
The term masochist springs to mind.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on March 15, 2017, 04:41:29 PM
The term masochist springs to mind.

Would that be Jacob Masochist the filosofer.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 16, 2017, 05:06:24 PM
More railings and some guns added.
I'm not brassed off yet. In a strange way this is quite fun.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 17, 2017, 12:24:58 PM
Fighting tops in place, and armed.
Pictures taken with flash don't 'arf show up the bits that need touching up!!
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on March 17, 2017, 03:32:08 PM
Another gold at Telford I believe.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on March 17, 2017, 05:00:18 PM
Awesome as always, you really are a beast of a modeller!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 17, 2017, 05:08:09 PM
Another gold at Telford I believe.
Wrong colour and not big enough me-thinks, we'll see.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Wizzel on March 18, 2017, 08:37:11 AM
WHAT?  You'd prefer a smaller silver or bronze medal to a larger gold?  Oddball  ;)
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 18, 2017, 08:47:09 AM
Lots of detail visible and very busy, nice.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: bridlufc on March 18, 2017, 11:44:12 AM
If I could rise to your level Haddock I probably would enjoy the 'dark side'

Bridlufc
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 19, 2017, 02:49:35 PM
                      Bit more detail added.
              Then the main and secondary armament.
                    Tops of the lower parts of the masts just plonked in place to see what they look like and formulate a plan to get it all looking plumb and square.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 19, 2017, 02:54:51 PM
WHAT?  You'd prefer a smaller silver or bronze medal to a larger gold?  Oddball  ;)
I meant the ship actually, not the medals. Got one of each so I don't really care.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 19, 2017, 03:13:16 PM
I just love the look of these older ships, very steampunk.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on March 20, 2017, 06:09:43 PM
Simply marvelous.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on March 20, 2017, 08:05:26 PM
All I can say is 'WOW!'

Great looking model Haddock, another spectacular effort from the master.
Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 23, 2017, 03:10:38 PM
Thanks for your kind comments folks.

                        Getting the masts ready for paint and rigging. Hopefully I can do some of the rigging         before fitting the masts in place, less chance of accidental damage from an attack of the shakes.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 23, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
Is it the angle or me?
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: bridlufc on March 23, 2017, 10:05:28 PM
I must agree with you Zak it does look a bit out of jannock that bottom yardarm

Bridlufc
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 24, 2017, 08:15:02 AM
Is it the angle or me?
Probably a bit of both, the perspective is confusing, plus the two halves aren't stuck together so the top half is free to rotate at the moment.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 24, 2017, 09:08:27 AM
I must agree with you Zak it does look a bit out of jannock that bottom yardarm

Bridlufc
Does this help?      There's certainly something there but I think I can lose that when the two parts are joined, there's a bit of play in the joint.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 24, 2017, 10:58:12 AM
Graph paper to the rescue, you ex- mathematician/ engineer.
Looks ok now.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 24, 2017, 11:31:37 AM
Even the lighting makes a difference!     The fun bit, once some rigging is on will be fixing both masts to their fighting tops and getting it all to look plumb and square to the centre-line of the ship. Can't see a way of actually measuring anything as yet so it will be the MK1 eyeball. It's a plastic to plastic joint so I'll have some time to adjust    I hope.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 24, 2017, 03:53:58 PM
           Made a start on some of the rigging, I'm using EZ line, it's very soft and floppy so it's impossible to feed it through a small hole.
           The main yard is the original plastic one, I wanted to preserve the detail, so the line is threaded through 0.3mm drilled holes, secured with a dab of superglue and cut flush with the hole where needed.
           My method is to cut a piece of fishing line, about six inches long and push both ends through the drilled hole, pull it nearly through leaving a loop, drop the end of the EZ line through the loop and gently pull the other ends, if it goes according to plan, you end up with the EZ line through the hole. Sounds complicated but it's harder to say than do, just needs perseverance.
           The brass yards are easier to do. Just a case of tying the line with a suitable knot, adjusting the tension, dab of superglue and cut off, job jobbed.
           You'll probably notice that the tension in the line has put a bit of a curve in the plastic yard, hopefully this should cancel out when the braces pull in the opposite direction.
           Hope all this drivel makes sense.
Haddock.



       
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on March 24, 2017, 04:22:32 PM
Masochist.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on March 24, 2017, 06:39:23 PM
Absolutely mad.....by the way what is a fighting top?? I know what a spinning top is but this one defeats me.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 25, 2017, 06:38:52 PM
Absolutely mad.....by the way what is a fighting top?? I know what a spinning top is but this one defeats me.
                             They are the two "sheds" that at the moment are the highest part of the model.
               During battle or gunnery practice, they would be manned by an officer and some ratings whose job it was to spot the fall of shot and relay the information to the gunnery officer.
              Arming them was not very successful and the guns were removed quite quickly.
          Fighting tops remained in use till the advent of usable radar, which rendered them obsolete.
               They did become more sophisticated, being fitted with range-finders, radio and other stuff.
           Can't have been the nicest place to be as the were in close proximity to the funnels so were exposed to all the heat and smoke.
Hope this helps.
Haddock.

Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Roger on March 25, 2017, 07:59:05 PM
In earlier days were they manned by sailors with muskets - wasn't it one such sailor in the fighting top that fatally wounded Nelson?  I seem to remember the term being used in relation to that incident.

Roger
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 25, 2017, 08:14:01 PM
Think you're right.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 26, 2017, 02:49:00 PM
Bit more progress, two halves joined and some more rigging added. More to add yet, but you get the idea.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 27, 2017, 04:23:56 PM
As a break from rigging, I thought now would be a good time to fit the anchors and chains.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on March 27, 2017, 08:32:46 PM
Hi Haddock,
That looks good. Those anchors look really heavy duty.

Question:- What is that empennage that juts out from the front of the bow above the waterline please?

Cheers,
Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 28, 2017, 07:54:52 AM
Hi Haddock,
That looks good. Those anchors look really heavy duty.

Question:- What is that empennage that juts out from the front of the bow above the waterline please?

Cheers,
Bigkev
It's a torpedo tube, there's one on the stern as well.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 28, 2017, 03:27:05 PM
Bit more progress, slowly but surely.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on March 28, 2017, 07:13:12 PM
Wonderful work and thank you for the lesson on fighting tops, I am now wiser in the ways of the dark side.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on March 28, 2017, 08:57:31 PM
Thanks for explanation on the Torpedo tube Haddock.
Never thought a warship of that size would have torpedo tubes fore and aft.
You live and learn. Thanks Haddock......
Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on March 31, 2017, 08:44:24 AM
There were also two more tubes below the waterline. They were fitted around the area of the main forward gun turret. The ship carried fourteen torpedoes (15"). Don't think they were very effective and I've yet to find any record of them being used, except in practice.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on April 02, 2017, 03:17:27 PM
Mainmast and derricks rigged. Gaff plus rigging for same to go on yet.
I found threading the pulleys quite difficult.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on April 02, 2017, 05:40:43 PM
Marvelous work, I am mega impressed.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on April 04, 2017, 02:56:46 PM
Ships boats,     lots of ships boats.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on April 04, 2017, 04:34:32 PM
Ships boats,     lots of ships boats.
Haddock.

Are they just plastic or have they got brass inserts ??????
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on April 05, 2017, 07:44:26 AM
                         Just plastic I'm pleased to say. The pulling boats aren't very nicely done, the gunnel's are very thick, to scale, about 12ins, but the innards are separate pieces, bit difficult to thin down without losing the shape.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on April 11, 2017, 07:56:30 PM
       Boats painted and in place. The "goalposts" are just there to fix the position of the boats, it's all rather cramped in that area.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on April 12, 2017, 09:38:35 AM
That is coming on a treat is that......nice one
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on April 18, 2017, 04:28:30 PM
Fore-deck and quarter-deck railings added, plus one or two other bits and bobs.
Still more detail to add yet.
Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on April 19, 2017, 08:55:26 AM
Looking very good!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on April 24, 2017, 08:02:03 PM
I'll trump that Kiteman!
It looks excellent in pictures and will be breath taking up close.
Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on April 26, 2017, 07:00:28 PM
Oh how I wish that I couild build that well!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on April 27, 2017, 07:47:21 AM
Stick 'em together and slosh some paint on!!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on April 27, 2017, 12:55:09 PM
Stick 'em together and slosh some paint on!!
If only it were that simple.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on April 28, 2017, 01:03:40 PM
Haddock is right, in principle, but its like saying that Constable just took a piece of canvas and sloshed some paint on it!!!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Bigkev on April 28, 2017, 03:26:47 PM
But Haddock and Constable both did it with artistic flair..........................
Which, I do not have and suspect equally others don't have either.
Bigkev
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on April 28, 2017, 04:30:42 PM
But Haddock and Constable both did it with artistic flair..........................
Which, I do not have and suspect equally others don't have either.
Bigkev
They do, they just need to find it!!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on April 28, 2017, 04:50:57 PM
I`m with you on this one Kev!
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Haddock on May 19, 2017, 09:57:56 AM
That's it folks, job jobbed, here it is in all it's horrible glory.

Finished a couple of weeks ago but my camera has been on the blink.

I may add some figures at a later date.

Haddock.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: zak on May 19, 2017, 10:04:33 AM
I just love those early battleships.
Great.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: MSea on May 19, 2017, 02:07:59 PM
Another masterpiece from the master.
Title: Re: TSESARAVICH, 1904, in1:350.
Post by: Kiteman on May 19, 2017, 07:00:39 PM
Fantastic! How do you do that water>???? I would love to know.